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Postby Simatra » Wednesday 28 March 2007 12:01:37am

Owch, yeah all right, but still, who knows? We don't! :lol:
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Postby FawkesthePhoenix » Wednesday 28 March 2007 7:02:27pm

hmmm.......... maybe it's some kind of thing he has, when killing familys don't kill the mother. he's a cereal killer, and they usally have some kind of pattern. :-?
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Postby Simatra » Tuesday 17 April 2007 3:50:58pm

Wait! I found out that my theory isn't proven wronge! :eek:


Okay here it is: Lily may be some heir of Sytherine. She is of Slytherine and James is of Gryffindor.
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Postby FawkesthePhoenix » Tuesday 17 April 2007 11:40:22pm

lily is a muggleborn, she can't be slytherin's descendent, and V was the last one.
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Postby Simatra » Wednesday 18 April 2007 3:10:10pm

Yes, I know that. But not all Slythrines were pure-blood, I recken. And plus only LV has said that he's the last one, and you can't take a charactor's word for it. Unless it's Herminone or DD.
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Postby Run Away!!! » Wednesday 18 April 2007 8:04:34pm

yes, LV might THINK he's the last one.. and thats what he wants to believe. Wizard with muggle blood can be a descendant because LV has muggle blood (he's ashamed of it thats why he persecutes muggle-bloods so much). LV just doesn't consider other people because he thinks they are too weak or muggle-blooded to be slytherin descendants.
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Postby Phoenix in the Ashes » Thursday 19 April 2007 11:20:00am

You know what would be an excellent twist? If Slytherin himself wasn't a pure-blood. As for Voldemort being the last of his descendants, I se it two ways:

1) This is a book. If it's been said so many times that he's the last descendant, no matter how unlikely it is, it is.

2) In reality... over the 1000 or-so years since Slytherin lived, surely, surely there's more than one descendant. Come on... Even if his descendants only had one child every generation for the first 500 years, had two for a century (and each of them had one for the next 400, and two for a century) and then one per generation for the final 400 years...

And that's an unrealistic lack of breeding...

EVEN THEN: There would SURELY be more than one descendant...

But Voldemort might just be the last remaining one in the direct line - oldest child or whatever...

Option 1 is probably correct.
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Postby .:.Lily.:. » Sunday 17 June 2007 9:05:47am

Slytherins family were one of the last of the pure bloods, they were left to breed amongst themselves to keep it pure by the time the line had gone to the Gaunts. The breeding would be minimal...

I can't officially count how many times it is mentioned that Lily was offered a reprieve but it is a fact that she indeed was...

Lily was the only person who had ever been kind to Snape in school, he could have easily had feelings for her. Snape was in a life debt to James, but after providing the half of the prophecy to his dark lord, he endangered his life rather then protected it. I believe he might have asked LV to spare Lily's life as a favor to him as the DE that brought to him such valuable information but it is the idea that he had sent LV after Lily and James that he went to DD for redemption, his last way to try and save James to repay his life debt to him and to save Lily, the only woman who ever cared for him.
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Postby GodrictheGriffon » Sunday 17 June 2007 4:54:21pm

Okay, this is really wierd but: What if LV had an affair with Lily's mother?
I know, Ew. :eek:
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Postby Run Away!!! » Sunday 17 June 2007 8:52:47pm

I don't think Lily had an affair with anyone or ever really loved any other man.. It would really get to Harry if he found that out though.
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Postby .:.Lily.:. » Monday 18 June 2007 12:59:05am

Why are you trying to villain-ize a beloved character such as Lily? She was a good woman, she was fighting against LV, she wasn't sleeping with him!!

If any of the DEs were in fact in love with her, it would have been Snape.
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Postby Run Away!!! » Monday 18 June 2007 3:59:46pm

Yeah if there is something about Lily it would probably have to do with Snape but I don't think there is. But it probably might have something to do with the reason why Snape holds such a big grudge against Harry because of James. Lily was probably the only one who stood up for Snape and hassled James about being cruel to him. Lily was probably an attractive young woman so why wouldn't Snape feel a little something for her? But then she ended up dating James anyway, and marrying him.. so that gives snape even more reason to hate James.
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Postby .:.Lily.:. » Monday 18 June 2007 10:35:39pm

True. When we see her stand up for Snape in the pensieve, it couldn't have been the first time she did that. She wouldn't stand up for the first time in their 5th year and say that's wrong. If she felt that way she would have felt that way from the beginning.

It could easily cause even more animosity between him and James because they both loved her and he would have known that with his low self esteem, James would have easily won her over before he would, and it could even be why James was so cruel to him was because he was upset that he had feelings for the same girl he did...

His insults to her was out of the rage that he felt at James for allowing her to see him so humiliated. It was his worst memory, not because everyone saw him dangling upside, his filthy undergarments exposed, but because of how he treated Lily.

In OOTP, when Snape is giving Harry Occulmency lessons, he hides 3 memories, if one of them was of this humiliation and this memory of how he berated Lily, then we can assume that the other 2 memories he hid are similar ones. Whose to say for sure that he was hiding anything about his dark deeds and things he has done for Voldemort were any of the memories he hid?
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