Voldemort vs. Voldemort?

[Simatra]

This is all too confuseing...

[selene]

well, the idea is that when you get older you get smarter and stronger.
the question behind the theory is: would his last horcrux be stronger then the first ('cause he's learned and done so much more between them)

[selene]

i'm sorry for the doublepost but i can't edit

if voldy kills part of him (a horcrux) the same thing would happen as dumbledore destroyed a horcxux, basicly nothing except that he lost another horcrux

i don't think they would both die, i think they do think in the same way but not the exact same thing (the older version probably has more experience, knows more spells and will use it to his advantage)

two voldys at the same time will couse trouble but do you really think they would try to kill each other? with the whole immortality thing playing in his head. i mean, how many horcruxes can you make?

[Simatra]

well, and the younger Tom would still be a Hocrox right?

[selene]

of course, he can't clone or duplicate himself any better then you or i

[Simatra]

Well, if the old LV killed him he'd lose a horcrox, and Tom beat LV then thier would be only one LV untill the real LV came back. So I think in this situation they'd have to work together, which would be bad because LV is so determined to be differant.

[youknowwho]

Time to add to the confusion

From what I've gathered all wizards who used horcruxes preceding voldemort had only one of them. This would indicate that whenever you make a horcrux your soul gets split in half so that would mean that the actual voldemorts soul is smaller than the peices in all bu one of his horcruxes.

Also if diary voldemort had become truly alive then he woould proboly become the true voldemort and the current shattered LV would become a mere horcruxe.

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

This would indicate that whenever you make a horcrux your soul gets split in half so that would mean that the actual voldemorts soul is smaller than the peices in all bu one of his horcruxes.

That is a very very good point.

100% Voldemort
50% horcrux, 50% Voldemort
25% horcrux, 25% Voldemort
12.5% horcrux, 12.5% Voldemort

Progress so far: 3 horcruxes and 12.5% of the original soul remains.

6.25% horcrux, 6.25% Voldemort
3.125% horcrux, 3.125% Voldemort
1.5625% horcrux, 1.5625% Voldemort remaining after six horcruxes have been made. Half it again for seven, although I think personally you cannot go deeper down than that - 0.78125% is too small - and this gives birth to my theory that in order to defeat Voldemort he'll have to get him to create another horcrux.

This is all that would remain of Voldemort. Do you think what we know read of Voldemort is only 1.5625% of his original self? Because assuming when horcruxes are made they are split in half each time - those figures cannot be denied.

The Sizes of Lord Voldemort: (From biggest to smallest)

The First Horcrux: 50%
The Second Horcrux: 25%
The Third Horcrux: 12.5%
The Fourth Horcrux: 6.25%
The Fifth Horcrux: 3.125%
The Sixth Horcrux: 1.5625%
The Walking and Talking Voldemort: 1.5625%

Added Total: 100%
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But remember we can put some names to some of the horcruxes because we have knowledge of them and the chronology that he made them in.

Therefore the First Horcrux, which we know is the Diary, has already been destroyed, and so we can be mostly sure that MORE than 50% of Voldemort's soul has been destroyed, because of course Dumbledore took one down at well - and because the ring was probably one of the first early horcruxes and could even have been the second, there is a chance that 75% of his soul is already destroyed (Assuming that the ring was created second).

[GodrictheGriffon]

But I personally think that the person who created the horcruxes would have complete control over them. And if the diary did work, there would be no need for him to go to Albania at all. I think that he meant for himself to come out of the diary because he knew that with age comes strength and wisdom. So he would have chance to live again and again and again; ect. That was why he made so many

[Mistress Siana]

PITA, those figures are certainly interesting, I've wondered about that a lot. The question is if the soul is indeed split into halves everytime, or if Voldemart has some control over the ratio or something...also, JKR and math= ...you know? *g* It really bugs me, because technically, that should be the way it works, but DD said he sacrificed his hand for one seventh of Voldemort's soul. Therefore, and because I don't believe we only have 1,5625% left, my guess would be JKR screwed up.

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

I think that although the math is technically correct if the soul is split in half each time a horcrux is made, this isn't the case. Or it is, but it won't matter.

I think the argument will be that all the horcruxes are worth the same value, but that would entitle as you say, Voldemort deliberately splitting exactly 1/7 of himself when he was 16, which requires remarkable forsight.

It also means that the walking and talking Voldemort has the same amount of soul as a horcrux (1/7) that I think can be assumed as correct.

[Mistress Siana]

Yeah, that's what I think too. Or maybe the soul doesn't follow mass, since it's not really a substantial thing but more like...a spiritual entity?

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

True, but once the world "split" is used, you can always ask how much is being split.

I just thought about Dementors... I think there's a real chance that they're the deathly hallows. Swallowing souls etc... I think it fits.

[GodrictheGriffon]

And there hollow kissing things! But I'm still for the Godric Hollow thing.

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

The word is hallow, not hollow.

Different meanings...