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theories for books 6 and 7

Postby harry_potter04 » Thursday 17 June 2004 4:35:51am

We all know by now that Rowlings never writes anything without it having some meaning to it. I think she sometimes laughs as she's writing the books because she seems to be giving us clues as to what the future holds and we just dont seem to know it. That said here are a few ideas about the next two book that ive been having.

1. Harry's eyes keep getting mentioned often in all of the books as though rowlings is trying to tell us something. I think that for whatever reason his eyes will be a key weapon against voldemort. Or at least be very important in the next two book. They just get so much attention is would be a dissapointment if they didnt have an important meaning behind them.

2. Petunia is revealed to be more than what she seems to be. The slip up of petunia revealing that she knows some stuff about the world of wizards to me says she isnt quite as mean as she comes off. Like mrs. Figg I think she's been simply assigned the task of watching harry over the years. I mean what better place to hide him than with muggles who seem to hate him? I think if that isnt precisley the case then instead it might be more like she has wizard powers and received an invitation to attend hogwarts long ago but refused because she was scared or something but she's had to pay for it by watching over harry instead all these years and thinks its a punishment for not attending school which is why she seems to hate wizards so much. Anyway what i'm trying to say is that I think she will in the end play a fairly significant role.

3. As a sort of tie-in with the last point I think that Petunia and the rest of the dursleys will be forced to go into the wizard world when Petunia is summoned by dumbledore to fulfill a promise, obviously hinted at by the howler. Going into the wizard world, will I think cause the dursleys to stop hating harry and just accept him instead of fighting him.

4. Ron and Hermione finally just get it over with. As much as I like tension I dont think I could wait to see this to get done in book 7. Why cant they just kiss and date and then get at each others throats because obviously they are exact opposites and break up. That way hermione for the first time in her life can actually pay attention to the way harry has always been there for her etc. etc. . . . you know the rest

5. Harry infiltrates the ministry of magic using his cloak and some excellent stealth spells, and finally finds what are behind some of those other doors. And in doing so finds some sort of cubby hole in some long forgotten room filled with dust and cobwebs that inside it has a few items or one that looks unimpressive but has more to it than he knows or anyone else for that matter.

6. Neville Longbottom finally get his due. he's been a consistent character in all the books and in OoTP showed great talent and skill in dumbledores army training. It almost foreshadows the obvious which is that in the next book he gets some real backbone and teaches malfoy a lesson. I think youll finally see the last of neville the coward and more of neville the confident hero. I think his role will be alot bigger in the next several books than people imagine.

7. Dumbledores army will be called upon in the end. Like the order of the phoenix I think his army of students will prove invaluable in the last and final book and maybe even in the 6th too. They did show some spirit in phoenix in the final chapters, and I think it will only get stronger and better.

Ok sorry I wrote so much but hey give me some thoughts about what you think about . . . my thoughts and any of your own
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Postby ADreamAbove » Thursday 17 June 2004 2:32:09pm

1. If his eye color were a huge deal, why did they cast a blue-eyed Harry in the movies? Just based on the movie info, I think it might not be their color, but the fact that they're Lily's.... but you're right, the heavy emphasis on green is a red flag....

4. I really don't think anything will ever come of Harry and Hermione, particularly because Hermione helped him with Cho without evidencing a morsel of jealousy or irritation in OotP.

(And I hope I'm not being presumptuous by adding one here...)

8. For the love of God, I hope she clear-cut explains what happened to Sirius...
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Postby Mint » Thursday 17 June 2004 2:43:23pm

ADreamAbove wrote:1. If his eye color were a huge deal, why did they cast a blue-eyed Harry in the movies?


Dan Radcliffe was suppose to wear green contacts in the movie, but his eyes were very allergic to them so the movie went on with his eyes being blue. In the last movie people are saying that his eyes were digitally edited to be green. (of course i wasnt watching that closely so i dont know <_<' )
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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Friday 18 June 2004 12:21:59am

About 2 &3.....In an interview JKR says Harry will have his shortest stay in Privet Drive yet. I'm thinking some sort of attack will happen and Harry and possibly the Dursleys will be evacuated to Hogwarts.
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Postby Jotomicron » Friday 18 June 2004 3:32:07am

Hmm!!! As long as Harry's in his aunt house, I think Voldemort can't hurt him... But yeah, an attack might be a possibility.

Anyway, some time ago, someone said to me that the Dursley are mainly a negtive factor on the plot, and with all this happening now (I mean, Voldemort, and his gang out again), there will be no need for this 'negative point' cause the bad things are just happening... SO no needing Dursleys anymore, now...
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Postby Groo » Friday 18 June 2004 8:33:55am

umm i dont think so... i think that the Dursleys will be there till the end. JKR wont like to break a pattern. the seventh book will begin with Harry in Privet Drive and end with him coming back to King's Cross, though there might be a difference in the end with harry deciding to live somewhere else maybe.....
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Postby menotyoo » Friday 18 June 2004 6:15:47pm

I don't know about the 7th book, but I heard( and dammit I forget where...though I have a feeling it was jkrowling.com) that the 6th book will start in a different way than all of the first 5 books.
This to me means one likely thing: A Flashback
JKR hasn't used this before and I can't think of any other new start that would make sense -though I don't doubt there are other possiblilities.
About #1, yeah I think its just that they are "Lily's eyes", hey, this is a thought!, what if they ARE Lily's eyes. Literally, meaning she had some talent that she used her eyes for and either passed that on to harry intentionally or not and THAT is their significance.
#4, who knows about harry and hermione, but JKR did say there would be a love interest for harry in the 6th book, and the pickings aren't very numerous. Hermione...well...Cho seems to be a thing of the past, and it seems like Ginny's off the market too if she's going out with Dean now.
Another thing about this subject is that whoever harry does go out with he will inevitably alienate them because they will be his vent for all of the struggles that he's endured and will, obviously, continue to endure throughout the books. Also, the relationships in the future books should be less hand-holding and quick little kisses, so assuming that JKR's sense of reality stretches as far as modern teen-aged romances(which it seems to, given her description of the other patrons in the tea shop in OotP, and the veela girl and her Yule Ball date in GoF). Let's just hope there isn't too much focus on this subject, after all, that's what day-time soap opera's are for.
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Postby Mint » Friday 18 June 2004 7:07:28pm

menotyoo wrote:About #1, yeah I think its just that they are "Lily's eyes", hey, this is a thought!, what if they ARE Lily's eyes. Literally, meaning she had some talent that she used her eyes for and either passed that on to harry intentionally or not and THAT is their significance.


Ooookeeeey, this is Not a jeepers creepers movie here!!! :o :grin: But honestly - that is Scary. so I doubt it. >_< *hides under the refrigirator*
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Re: theories for books 6 and 7

Postby Athena Appleton » Sunday 20 June 2004 2:59:35pm

harry_potter04 wrote:1. Harry's eyes keep getting mentioned often in all of the books as though rowlings is trying to tell us something. I think that for whatever reason his eyes will be a key weapon against voldemort. Or at least be very important in the next two book. They just get so much attention is would be a dissapointment if they didnt have an important meaning behind them.


Okay, basically, no one agrees with me on this, but I persist. The color of Harry's eyes is irrelevant. It's the similarity to Lily's eyes that is important. Don't know why, but I just take all those green-eye references and go a TOTALLY different way with them than everyone else. :grin:

2. Petunia is revealed to be more than what she seems to be. The slip up of petunia revealing that she knows some stuff about the world of wizards to me says she isnt quite as mean as she comes off. Like mrs. Figg I think she's been simply assigned the task of watching harry over the years. I mean what better place to hide him than with muggles who seem to hate him? I think if that isnt precisley the case then instead it might be more like she has wizard powers and received an invitation to attend hogwarts long ago but refused because she was scared or something but she's had to pay for it by watching over harry instead all these years and thinks its a punishment for not attending school which is why she seems to hate wizards so much. Anyway what i'm trying to say is that I think she will in the end play a fairly significant role.


I have some serious doubts that Petunia ever received an invitation to Hogwarts. After all, she seems truly jealous of Lily because Lily got her letter to Hogwarts. I do agree with you, though, that Petunia is more than she seems. If you have a good look around the forum, you'll see that there are LOTS of threads on Petunia and her real past.

3. As a sort of tie-in with the last point I think that Petunia and the rest of the dursleys will be forced to go into the wizard world when Petunia is summoned by dumbledore to fulfill a promise, obviously hinted at by the howler. Going into the wizard world, will I think cause the dursleys to stop hating harry and just accept him instead of fighting him.



Ummm... well, I think you're kinda off on this. I believe the promise that Petunia was reminded of in the Howler was simply that she agreed to take in Harry, along with the special responsibilities of keeping him safe that that included. But I do think she will be forced to face the wizarding world head-on in the upcoming books, but I don't think it'll make her like Harry one bit more.

4. Ron and Hermione finally just get it over with. As much as I like tension I dont think I could wait to see this to get done in book 7. Why cant they just kiss and date and then get at each others throats because obviously they are exact opposites and break up. That way hermione for the first time in her life can actually pay attention to the way harry has always been there for her etc. etc. . . . you know the rest



Waaaaaaayyyyyy off!!!!! :lol: No, no, no, all that fighting is a classic love-hate relationship. Ultimately, Hermione and Ron are made for each other. Harry and Hermione are just very good friends. Harry'll wind up with Ginny someday. :grin:

6. Neville Longbottom finally get his due. he's been a consistent character in all the books and in OoTP showed great talent and skill in dumbledores army training. It almost foreshadows the obvious which is that in the next book he gets some real backbone and teaches malfoy a lesson. I think youll finally see the last of neville the coward and more of neville the confident hero. I think his role will be alot bigger in the next several books than people imagine.


Well... I think just about everyone has realized now that Neville's got a big part to play in the upcoming books. If you go to J.K. Rowling's website, you'll see that she pretty clearly says that Neville's got an important role (when she's talking about Dean Thomas).

somebody wrote:Dan Radcliffe was suppose to wear green contacts in the movie, but his eyes were very allergic to them so the movie went on with his eyes being blue. In the last movie people are saying that his eyes were digitally edited to be green.


I kinda watched for it, and his eyes are a little less obviously blue, but they're still blue. I still think that if having vivid green eyes is the only clue out there for some weird Harry/Slytherin connection, or if the color of the eyes were extremely important in the storyline, they could have done something in this modern movie age that would not have had someone with extremely obvious vivid blue eyes playing Harry. They could have had fewer shots of just his bright blue eyes, for example, or toned them down with CGI, like they apparently did in PoA.

menotyoo wrote:I don't know about the 7th book, but I heard( and dammit I forget where...though I have a feeling it was jkrowling.com) that the 6th book will start in a different way than all of the first 5 books.
This to me means one likely thing: A Flashback


Goblet of Fire. Goblet of Fire started off in a way different than any other book. Also, P/SS started out with telling the story through Vernon's point of view, rather than Harry's.

and it seems like Ginny's off the market too if she's going out with Dean now.


:lol: I don't think Ginny's exactly engaged to Dean... She kinda dates around more than any other character in the books so far, with the possible exception of Cho. Ginny's definately the one for Harry, and someday they'll realize it.
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