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Aparation

Postby MarganaLaFey » Saturday 15 May 2004 1:28:11am

Ever notice how the fact that you can't apparate/disapparate on school grounds is stressed. What part do you think apparation will play in the plot. I think in the last book Death Eaters or even Voldemort will somehow apparate into Hogwarts....
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Postby Alice I » Saturday 15 May 2004 1:40:50am

I don't see how they could unless the spells and charms protecting the school for over 1,000 years are lifted somehow.

Note this: House elves can apparate to and from Hogwarts and JKR's explanation for this is that House elves have powers that wizards do not and vise versa.
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Postby imc130d » Saturday 15 May 2004 2:21:22am

People may not be able to Apparate/DisApparate to or from Hogwarts, or even within the grounds, but there's plenty of other ways for people to get onto the Hogwarts grounds. So I figure if Voldemort or his Death Eaters are going to succesfully invade Hogwarts, they'll probably use another way to get in.

Ooh, just had a nasty thought. Was there only one Marauders Map? What if Pettigrew has one? Heck, even if he doesn't have one, he might remember enough about ways to get into/out of Hogwarts undetected to be useful to Voldemort...
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Postby Herminny » Saturday 15 May 2004 4:17:41am

I have often wondered why this point is stressed so much. My only guess is that JK is making us believe it is impossible, maybe in the upcomming books it becomes kind of almost possible, where do wizzards learn how to apperate if not at hogwarts?
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Postby Dumbledores Master » Saturday 15 May 2004 10:24:47am

They learn at the ministry of magic remember in the book it said
*4th floor Magical Tranportation headquarters and apparition testing*
(something like that) I think that they may come through the forest since we don`t know where the other end is. Voldie is certainly powerful enough because DD managed to get through unharmed. He may blast through and then lay in hiding until something happens and then springs out to attack with DE and creatures from the forest. See the "a war in the making?" thread for a bit more about this.
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Postby Aberforth » Monday 17 May 2004 10:34:17am

I think it is stressed so much because it would be an obvious means of entry/exit in so many cases - Sirius in PoA, Voldy at any time, Rita Skeeter in GoF. It means that the bad guys can't do hit and runs, sneak raids - that sort of thing. It would be too easy for anyone wanting access to Hogwarts if you could apparate in/out so I think that it is mentioned so many times just to remind us of that fact.

If you read the first chapter or two of each bok, they all start out similarly in that it reminds us about Harry's situation - being an orphan, living with the Dursleys, being a wizard... This tack only changed in OotP, when it kinda went straight into the story. I think the apparition into Hogwarts is like this.
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Postby Alice I » Monday 17 May 2004 2:22:45pm

I have to say I agree with Aberforth.
If the big final battle comes to Hogwarts the "Bad Guys" will come to the school some other way.
I know...
maybe the Hogwarts Express will be hiacked. j/k that would be pretty implausible.
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Postby choki » Monday 17 May 2004 3:44:41pm

Haha nice one on that hijacking of Hogwarts Express.
But there are seriously too many ways.
Swim through the lake and enter through the sewage system.
Fly over to Hogwarts on dragons :evil:
Perhaps the floo network was being sabotaged by insiders...
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Postby pallas artemis » Monday 17 May 2004 9:20:00pm

I can't remember :oops: :???: , does anyone besides a student ever say that you can't apparate on the grounds?
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Postby Alice I » Monday 17 May 2004 9:27:19pm

It's in Hogwarts a History
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Postby Emma'I'm a real witch' » Monday 17 May 2004 10:15:12pm

And that means it's true!

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Postby pallas artemis » Monday 17 May 2004 11:17:10pm

And that means it's true!


Does it? I can't begin to tell you how many text books I've come across that were wrong at least once. :-(
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Postby Athena Appleton » Tuesday 18 May 2004 4:20:07am

Voldie is certainly powerful enough because DD managed to get through unharmed.


I think Dumbledore made it through not because he was a powerful wizard, but because he was a respective one. The Centaurs didn't clobber him because he knew how to talk to them, not offend them, and treat them with the respect they rarely receive from humans.

Does it? I can't begin to tell you how many text books I've come across that were wrong at least once.


Well, while I do agree with you in a normal sense (like, not in Rowling's world,) if you watch the interview with her and the writer of the movie, she says that she uses Hermione and Dumbledore to give true background information without sounding boring, because it's believable that they'd know it. Dumbledore, because he just knows just about everything, and you can always assume that anything Hermione says she read in a book.

I take this to mean that if Hermione is quoting something she learned in a book, it can just about always be assumed to be true. I know she read that there were only, what, like, seven animagi in a century and there turned out to be at least four more, but this bit of information is different, I think, than the no apparating or disapparating thing being written in Hogwarts: A History.
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Postby Phaerie » Tuesday 18 May 2004 8:22:42am

i think Snape mentions that you can't apparate out of hogwarts at the end of PoA, just after its discovered that Sirius has escaped.
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Postby Alice I » Tuesday 18 May 2004 1:09:47pm

Good call Phaerie.
He did indeed confirm what Hermione has been saying all along!
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