Two questions (Broomstick/Blood-thing)

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Two questions (Broomstick/Blood-thing)

Postby Mr3d » Tuesday 13 April 2004 1:38:43pm

After reading the 5th book I asked me:

1.- Did Harry forget his broom at Hogwarts after Umbridge being already gone?

2.- Dumbledore says that Harry should go back to his aunt's house to be safe, because of the family-blood-protecting thing. However, didn't Voldemort already solve this "problem" at the end of book 4 by taking some of Harry's blood? Is Dumbledore wrong or are both Voldemor and Dumbledore right? Did Harry tell everything to Dumbledore?

Please help me understand better the story

¡Saludos desde España!

{edited by violet}
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Postby Dumbledores Master » Wednesday 14 April 2004 4:07:30pm

In answer to Q2 Voldemort only removed the protection around harrys body. he removed the blood protection but the house is still protected.
Q1 is just stupid
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Postby Mr3d » Wednesday 14 April 2004 5:41:04pm

I asked Q1 because we know at the end, Harry has got Hedwig's cage and his trunk with him. JKR didn't write anything about it, but perhaps it is llike with the morauder's map: it is obvious... If you think it's stupid, never mind... :roll:
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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Wednesday 14 April 2004 11:42:31pm

Yeah, I agree with DM. But I don't think its the actual Dursley house, it just happens to be "where your (harrys) mother's blood resides" -DD
So I think it's as long as Harry is with Petunia he is safe, but if Petunia ever bites the dust, Harry's had it.

Q2: I think that's just one of those things JKR assumes we assume. (does that make sense? :-?
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Postby Athena Appleton » Thursday 15 April 2004 12:24:53am

DM: that is totally inappropriate. It is rude to tell someone that their question is stupid, even if you don't consider it to be important, there are no stupid questions.

With the first question, I totally see your point. Even with the marauder's map, we're told how Harry got it back. I think it's a fairly nonimportant issue, since really, Harry most likely wouldn't need it until school begins anyway, so it could be that he got it sometime in the later part of the year in OotP, or it's still at Hogwarts, ready for him when he returns.

He was actually pretty upset, it just shows that you don't think about those kinds of things when you're as distraught as he was at the end of the fifth book.

With question 2, I don't pretend to know exactly how that blood charm protection works. I really don't think it has a thing in the world to do with the house, but where Harry considers "home" to be. As far as I know, the only effect of Voldy taking Harry's blood is, where he couldn't physically touch him before, he can now. But I think the blood protection is still powerful, and he won't be itching to go where Harry considers home to be, because he can take on one fifteen-year-old boy away from Dumbledore and Privet Drive, but not the full power of that protection when Dumbledore is around, or Harry is in or around Privet Drive...
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Postby Violet » Thursday 15 April 2004 12:31:57am

Yeah i think that Athena's right about the blood protection thing, i think that its got more to do with lily than the house itself.

and again for the first question i think that the book was so long that if JK tried to tie up every loose end in the book then it woulda been ridiculously long, so it was just something that we'd assume.
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Postby Emma'I'm a real witch' » Thursday 15 April 2004 12:36:48am

Exactly!

LV had to get Harry (i.e. the portkey in the final task) away from the other wizards he considered powerful before he would try to take him on.
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Postby paintballdecoy » Thursday 15 April 2004 1:14:33am

Dumbledores Master wrote:Q1 is just stupid


Whats so stupid, that was a very rude thing to say, please don't insult people like that


Anyway, I would amagine he got it back, and the house is the protection now, not just the blood
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Postby Aberforth » Thursday 15 April 2004 9:29:10am

Although Harry has the protection at the Dursleys, JKR has said that in book 6 Harry will have his shortest stay at Privet Drive (this was in the webchat some time ago now). I would think that Dumbledore would want to keep Harry there as long as possible to keep him safe. This leads me to thinking that Harry 'rebels' and decides to go to Grimauld Place as he probably inherited it from Sirius. I think Harry will want things around him to remind him of Sirius and decides that, since he has somewhere else he can now go, he doesn't have to stay with the Dursleys. He has always had the Burrow, but he could be putting the Weasleys in danger if he stayed there. Grimauld Place is well protected and being the HQ for the OotP there would be enough highly-skilled wizards around to not worry about it.
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Postby Dumbledores Master » Thursday 15 April 2004 11:57:38am

I would like to retract my statement

Q1 is just stupid

And instead want to say

you just assume that he got it back.[/quote]
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Postby Nobby » Thursday 15 April 2004 12:03:10pm

thats better :grin:
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Postby Herminny » Thursday 15 April 2004 1:38:45pm

but with the brromstick thing, he used it in the 5th book, every year more of the wizzarding world invades Harrys muggle world, maybe he will need it again or something. If JK didn't describe it being with Harry (its pretty big) maybe...just maybe it could be important. It's to hard to say, it could go either way.

I wouldn't think he would forget it though. It is his most prized posession.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Thursday 15 April 2004 7:28:04pm

I dunno, it does seem odd, though...

I see what you mean about wizarding world invading muggle world more and more, though...
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Postby Phaerie » Wednesday 12 May 2004 11:02:59am

I know the blood thing is meant to stop voldemort attacking Harry when he is at privet drive, but does it stop him attacking: pertunia, vernon and dudley. or indeed the house itself. Its not as if they used a fidelius ( i think thats it) charm, to conceal harry's location when hes at home, hence voldemort would be able to find him.

maybe Voldemort destroys privet drive, hence removing the place HArry calls home, even if this ony temporary- presuming pertunia survives, whilst they find a new house. this would leave harry vulnerable. After all JK seems to be slowly stripping harry of the protection he has from Voldemort- maybe so when they meet for the last time they meet as complete equals.

And if Voldemort destroys privet drive, it would account for his short stay there.
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Postby Groo » Wednesday 12 May 2004 1:03:46pm

you are quite refreshing with your simple, obvious and decisive theories Phaerie :D
An attack on Privet Drive, i would say, is a step which wont be of any trouble since the blood protection wont protect the house. However i dont think Rowling will opt for that as:

1. from what we have seen of JKR, she likes to maintain a trend. the first book started with Harry being bullied by the Dursleys, in CoS he takes a bold step of escaping, in PoA he actually walks out, in GoF its Dudley who starves but Harry doesnt. thus he is becoming more and more rebellious and i am sure she will maintain it till Book 7 where Harry will walk out of Privet Drive to become totally independent.

2. Privet Drive is under surveillance and so if the DEs attack, the Order will apparate instantaneously to oppose
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