Mark Evans

[Meg Boyd]

Ehhh...I really want Harry's grandparents (and Petunia) to be a squib...ahhhh...

What if Mr Evans Senior (Harry's grandpa) was a squib. He married a non squib wife and she left him taking their son after learning that she was married to a kinda magical man (perhaps thinking he was insane when he talked about owls and stuff). Then Mr Evans Senior married the second Mrs Evans, and perhaps she was a fellow squib (whether she is or not is not really necessary) and that would account for their love for Lily's witchcraft. Meanwhile, Mrs Evans raises her son who grows up to father our dear Markie Evans who is unknown to the wizard registry and the Perfect Petunia. This would also account for the surname of Evans, given that the baby was born while she was married to Mr Evans.

Does that make sense?

[Athena Appleton]

That's just what I was thinking.... I really do think Lily's parents were squibs.

This is out of the "Ultimate Unofficial Guide to the Mysteries of Harry Potter" by Galadriel Waters, pg. 20:

"According to a J.K. Rowling interview with Scholastic, whenever any wizard is born, their name is recorded in a master book by a magic quill. Upon their 11th birthday, they are sent their invitation to wizarding school."

sooo.... hmmm.

[paintballdecoy]

I'd hate to drag up an old thread but I have just realized something. Remember how Dudley beat Mark up, and his gang had to hold him back, maybe becuase he could wriggle out of there grips or always seem to be able to get away some how. Remember how Harry would make fun of Dudley, or be cheek with him (in dudders opinion) and harry could always get away, some with Mark.

[pandora315]

They had to hold him back because Dudley was too fat to run after him. Isn't he supposed to be wider than he is tall, be hard to run wouldn't it I'm kidding. But I still think its not likely that anyone will have had a child out of wedlock in this serious so I don't buy that one. The idea of intimate relations (can I say that in here?) hasn't been brought up anywhere unless you count Kreacher snogging someones trousers and I think snogging means kissing anyway. How do you explain to an 8 year old about unwed mothers and b*****d children in a way that won't upset alot of parents? I don't think Petunia and Lily's parents could be squibs either because squibs are the children of all magical parents and in Snapes memory Snape calls Lily a mudblood (At other times DD has has called Harry a halfblood also but a halfblood again is half magic/half muggle not squib-a wizard/Squib alliance would still result in a pureblood wizard). He would only call her that if she was born of muggle parents- or raised by muggle parents since I think the adoption theory is alot more plausible than an out of wedlock pregnancy. Do you think maybe lily and petunia got sent to a muggle orphanage because their parents died? Sort of like Voldy?

[Athena Appleton]

How do you explain to an 8 year old about unwed mothers and b*****d children in a way that won't upset alot of parents?

It's unrelated, really, but the books aren't really written for children. J.K. Rowling never intended to set out to write a children's book, and she's said herself in several interviews that she didn't allow her daughter to read the books at a very young age (under ten years old). Yes, they've been marketed for children, but as the story develops and the characters grow up, I think they'll be even less child-ish.

I don't think Petunia and Lily's parents could be squibs either because squibs are the children of all magical parents and in Snapes memory Snape calls Lily a mudblood

I look to the victims in CoS for the answer to this one (and, coincidentally, Dumbledore's remark about Harry being a halfblood). All of the children attacked were children of Muggles, but Mrs. Norris was attacked because she was the pet of a squib. Squibs are not regarded as pureblood anything, they're only maybe slightly better than Muggles in the eyes of someone obsessed with being pureblood. So Snape could still have called Lily a "filthy mudblood" if she were the daughter of the squib. I don't, however, think he had any idea that her parents were squibs. So if they weren't, he would have called her a mudblood because they were muggles. If they weren't, he would have called her a mudblood because a mudblood is defined as someone of "non-magic parentage" (according to McGonagall, I think... squibs are non-magical) and he was really angry and looking for the worst word he could use to call her at that time.

About Dumbledore saying it, I think Voldemort would have looked at squibs in the same way, and even though I don't feel like Dumbledore would, he was talking about what Voldemort was looking at.

Do you think maybe lily and petunia got sent to a muggle orphanage because their parents died? Sort of like Voldy?

I don't think so... I mean, nothing to go for or against it, other than we know they were alive when Lily was eleven, and I feel like they were alive when Lily was seventeen (she practiced magic at home, and wouldn't have been allowed to do that if she weren't of age).

[Meg Boyd]

In my theory Lily and Petunia came from a long line of squibs...so long that the wizarding world had forgotten that the Evans family was actually a wizarding one...so distant that when Lily did come to Hogwarts the rest of the children pretty much assumed she was muggle born...and what if Lily knew her family were distant wizards??? I don't know, it's just a thought

[Athena Appleton]

yeah, that's kinda what I'm thinkin... but even so, let's imagine she was from a long line of wizards, and one had a squib... I don't think, if they were the meanie types, that they would go around introducing themselves as "Hi, have you met my brother? We call him Squibby."

[Nobby]

i know its off topic but i meet someone called mark evans today! weird!

[Emma'I'm a real witch']

If Snape called Lily a mudblood which is a person born from a wizard (i'm including squibs in with wizards, cos they come from a wizard bloodline) and a muggle then maybe just Lily's father was a wizard and her mother was a muggle. Hence the name Evans carried on.
I don't think we need to delve into all sorts of adoptions and children out of wedlock here, maybe he just had brothers and sisters who were also wizards and who had children, is that so hard to believe?
And just because the ministry doesn't have records of wizards in Little Wingeing means nothing, the rest of the family might not live there, Dudley could just go to the same school as Mark. Mark doesn't have to live in Little Wingeing to go to a school there. I went to a school miles from where I lived.

[Alice I]

i know its off topic but i meet someone called mark evans today! weird!

Also off topic but I x-rayed a woman named Hedwig last night.

[Athena Appleton]

i know its off topic but i meet someone called mark evans today! weird!

Also off topic but I x-rayed a woman named Hedwig last night.

wow... bet she has a pet owl named Harry.

Emma, I agree with what you said.

[Evil Wizard Petting Zoo]

I was just thinking that maybe Snape could have called her mudblood for no reason. You know how people will call another person a name but its not true, just meant to insult. See what I'm saying?

[Emma'I'm a real witch']

Possibly, but you have to think how JK's mind works when she's writing, and I don't think she would of thrown in such a comment without it meaning something.
And if you look at the way Snape says it
'I don't need help from filthy little mudbloods like her'
I think that means what we think it means

[Evil Wizard Petting Zoo]

Yeah, probably so. I was just throwing that out there.

[Athena Appleton]

You know, there are a few red herrings that she throws in there to throw us off track... this could be one of them.

While I don't think Snape called her a mudblood for no reason, I do think he didn't consider using mudblood in the strictest form of the word... like anyone who wasn't of "good pureblood" (not muggle, not squib) was called mudblood by Snape... 'specially when he was angry