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A Gryffindor's Secret?

Postby Alice I » Tuesday 16 March 2004 4:39:37am

There was a chamber of secrets that was connected with Salazar Slytherin.
What if there was a Secret place or thing associated with Godric Gryffindor?
Would it be in Godric's hollow?
Would it only be something that the true heir of Gryffindor could find?
If such a place or thing existed, how would it figure into the battle against Voldemort?

What are your thoughts?
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Postby choki » Tuesday 16 March 2004 5:07:06pm

Maybe the Sword of Gryffindor was the secret item?
And if both Godric Gryffindor and Salazar Slytherin left something special behind, what about Rowena Ravenclaw and Helga Hufflepuff?
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Postby FairyTale » Tuesday 16 March 2004 5:10:45pm

Maybe those answers will come up in the next book.

As for me...I have no idea. I'll have to consult my books.
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Postby Lupus » Tuesday 16 March 2004 5:15:01pm

Maybe basilisk that Harry was supposed to kill isn’t really dead, or maybe it had offspring, and then Harry, since he can speak snake-language, will become the master. Maybe then his snake will kill Voldemort’s… Just maybe…
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Postby Emma'I'm a real witch' » Tuesday 16 March 2004 11:15:34pm

Lupus wrote:Maybe basilisk that Harry was supposed to kill isn’t really dead, or maybe it had offspring, and then Harry, since he can speak snake-language, will become the master. Maybe then his snake will kill Voldemort’s… Just maybe…


Do you not think its really odd that Harry is a parseltongue? I thought this was odd at the time, I know it is meant to be because of the connection between him and LV but, if that is the case then what else connects them? Harry has got a lot more angry and violent lately, could this be because he is getting more like LV??

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Postby Alice I » Tuesday 16 March 2004 11:17:52pm

Emma, I'm a real witch wrote:Do you not think its really odd that Harry is a parseltongue? I thought this was odd at the time, I know it is meant to be because of the connection between him and LV but, if that is the case then what else connects them? Harry has got a lot more angry and violent lately, could this be because he is getting more like LV??


I think that has more to do with the stress that he is under and the fact that he is or was 15 yrs. old.
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Postby Emma'I'm a real witch' » Tuesday 16 March 2004 11:40:47pm

I think the violence/anger could be all hormonal and due to everything that happened in the graveyard and Sirius being killed. It was the parseltongue thing that worries me. But then I am a worrier (sp)

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Postby Alice I » Tuesday 16 March 2004 11:45:38pm

But DD pretty much explained that back in CoS. Voldi did not want to transfer any of his powers to Harry, he wanted to kill him. This is one of the pivotal pionts in the overall plot. If things had not happened the way they did that night 14 yrs. ago then Harry would be just another wizard kid or dead and then we would have no story.
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Postby Emma'I'm a real witch' » Tuesday 16 March 2004 11:52:23pm

I know LV did not want to transfer his powers to Harry but it is a case of 'Tough, you did'.
I just wonder whether being a parseltonge is part of Harry's power transfer from LV or if it was already there...............
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Postby Alice I » Wednesday 17 March 2004 12:11:32am

Well I suppose that is possible but I think kind of unlikely because Parsaltoungs are very rare and Tom Riddle was the first one since Salazar Slytherin.
I do agree with you that Harry has gotten a lot more angry and it really shows in book five. I think things will take a new direction at least emotionally for Hary in book six.
We will have to see. I personally think that a walk into the relm of depression is the next thing in store for our young hero. I wrote a book six and some of it is up in the Fan Fic area.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Wednesday 17 March 2004 1:55:53am

I have seen zippedy-doo-dah evidence that there is any secret chamber for the "heir of Gryffindor" or Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff... In Chamber of Secrets, the chamber existed because Slytherin put in there to one day be able to purge the school of muggle-borns. There were very thorough searches over the years to find the chamber... it seems like it would be a LOT easier to hide one chamber than two, three or four.

do you have any evidence that one exists, or is this just a theory that you're thinking might be cool?
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Postby Alice I » Wednesday 17 March 2004 2:14:55am

No evidence at all. Just theroising that there might be some legacy left to the Gryffindor heir that is a secret. Does not have to be a chamber or even a place for that matter.

It has always struck me that there is an undertone to the overall story that the real base of the conflict is the struggles between Godric and Salazar.

This was just an idea and I was wondering if any one else may have theorized along those lines and if so what are your thoughts. *shrugs* also I am kind of curious to hear other new ideas because I am plot stuck at the moment in what I am writing.

I just thought it might be a neat idea to have something left behind by Gryffindor come into play in the struggle between good and evil.
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Postby highsorcerer » Wednesday 17 March 2004 4:44:25am

I have to wonder if Godric Gryffindor's sword is like Excalibur - only able to be weilded by the rightful heir.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Wednesday 17 March 2004 7:31:39pm

highsorcerer wrote:I have to wonder if Godric Gryffindor's sword is like Excalibur - only able to be weilded by the rightful heir.


This idea had struck my mind before... When Dumbledore says "Only a true Gryffindor could pull that [sword] out of the hat." Some people use this to base a theory that while Riddle/Voldemort was the heir of Slytherin, James and Harry are the heirs of Gryffindor...

And since a lot of people do pick up on the theory that the original problem was with Godric Gryffindor and Salazar Slytherin, their heirs are destined to be enemies, too.
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Postby Aberforth » Thursday 18 March 2004 10:59:59am

Alice I wrote:Well I suppose that is possible but I think kind of unlikely because Parsaltoungs are very rare and Tom Riddle was the first one since Salazar Slytherin.


I don't think there is any evidence that there haven't been others since Slytherin. We are told it is rare and often the mark of a dark wizard, but we do know that there have been dark wizards other than Voldy (Grindelwald) and surely if Riddle is the heir of slytherin there must have been other heirs further up the family tree. Surely some of them were blessed with the gift too. Seems unlikely that in 1000 years only one slytherin heir would be a parselmouth.
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