Loyatly Issues... :evil grin:

[Mistress Siana]

yeah, they're definately stupid, but that's exactly why they aren't seen as a possible danger...see, Draco would certainly tell them anything, without paying attention to what they could give away. Being underesteemated can be a dangerous weapon. And I think it would suit JKR to show that even the smallest ones could make a difference.

[Holly Golightly]

Yeah, I suppose...

I can see your point, but I just cant' accept thinking that it might happen??

[Blaise Zabini]

Also, I had the impression that Filch was very ashamed of the fact that he's a squib, so maybe he likes Snape because he gives him the feeling of being important.

Excellent point. I definitely see a recurring theme in all of these topics about ambition and power.

About Ron: I doubt that he'll be tempted to the Dark side. It just seems so cliché. The whole best friend stabbing the protagonist in the back, thing. But the Narcissa/Crabbe/Goyle thing is v. good. It would be highly unexpected (except by us ) and would be an excellent plot device. I've thought of Narcissa as being on the good side, but not really Crabbe and Goyle. Will have to think of that some more.

[Neo]

I don't think Narcisa will be good, several wizards have stated that "the whole Malfoy family is already rotten"

and about Carbbe and Goyle, I'm not sure they will tell info anyone, surely Draco knows they are so stupid he has told them not to say aynthing to anyone except him.

And Ron again toward Harry would be too much, maybe only for a girl thing they could have a samall fight, but not to the point where Ron changes sides.

[Blaise Zabini]

and about Carbbe and Goyle, I'm not sure they will tell info anyone, surely Draco knows they are so stupid he has told them not to say aynthing to anyone except him.

The only person that has really stated that they're stupid are Harry, Hermione, and Ron. and, no offence to them, their interpretation of the two is a bit biased. I'm not sayin that Crabbe and Goyle are astrophysicists or anythng, just that they may be a little smarter than they're put off to be.

Oh, and just because Draco may have told them not to tell anyone doesn't necessarily mean that they'll listen. They may follow a lot of his orders, but I'm sure that if by questioned by Dumbledore, they might come clean.

[Scellanis]

no actually...draco says it in the common room....he says if they were any slower theyd be going backwards....which means he clearly thinks they are a bit stupid....i know harry and ron were being them at that point but but the statement kind of infers that they are always like that

[Mint]

But their parents serve Voldie.

Do u think their parents are also slow?

[Holly Golightly]

I'd say that they probably are Mint!

You know, Draco is followed by Crabbe and Goyle Jr, and Lucious be Crabbe and Golye Sn!!!

*could happen!!!*

[Scellanis]

you know...from their replies to voldemort compared with the other death eaters replies id say yes...crabbe and goyle are just like their fathers....

[Mint]

Awww, those poor things hehe

Well, at least there is no doubt where their loyalty lies! There won't be any surprises about them.

[Scellanis]

no...i think they may be a bit like pets in that respect...whoever has the most food is their best friend....lol

[Holly Golightly]

Okies, this is a little off what we are talking about, but still on topic! *note, why I made the topic so vauge!*

What if Snape didn't really know that Quirell was working for Voldie?? Maybe he just though that he wanted the Philospher's Stone for himself??? After all, Harry etc though at first that Snape just wanted it for himself???

Just an idea...?

[Mint]

i thinks its a good idea. 8)

I don't know - Quirell did say it himself that Snape was trying to save Harry.

And JKR always leaves some sorta clues, and this time there where no clues that Snape intentions were different.

Also, why did he try to save Harry by saying countercurse when he was about to fall?

[Willow]

Snape said a coutercurse because Harrys dad saved his life once.
he had to clear a dept and because James was dead had to save Harrys life.

And I think if Snape had wanted the stone he would have had it. he is that intelligent,I think, that all these puzzles were no problem to him.

[Scellanis]

yes i have to agree....Snape does give the impression of being very intelligent...