Snape's deeds

[Holly Golightly]

But you never know!

I can just see it happening that his job is to go back to Voldie and tell him whatever he needs to to get back into his ring to spy, and Harry, Ron and Hermoine thinking that maybe his plan in the first place was to make DD believe that he had changed, but never really did! You know, be spying on DD the whole time, just pretending not to be, and this would be why he didt' ahve to go back to the meeting, because Voldie already knew that he was workingundercover, and that Snape didnt' want to risk being caught out going there or somethign?

Hrmm, I know I mean... does anyone else??

[Mistress Siana]

That's it: You never know

well but I think that Snape is clever enough to know that changing from side very often is too risky, and changing once is okay, but a second seems too much for me.

Maybe, he never changed at all...or possibly he's being blackmailed by Voldie...(I think I've already said that, hm?)

[Holly Golightly]

I like that, and if thats the way it's happening, maybe the only reason he tried to save harry from Quirell/voldie was because of the life debt he owed to James...>?

[Mistress Siana]

possible!
Or maybe he's been on the good side until that point and therefore tried to stop Quirrell. But because of this, Voldie found out he's a spy and begab to blackmail him... that would be possible,wouldn't it...
But maybe I have a too lively imagination...

[Neo]

How could Voldemort blackmail Snape?

And why Snape showed Fudge his arm if he is in Voldemort's side? (At the end of GoF)

[Holly Golightly]

Yes, what would Voldie have on Snape to blackmail him about? Presumably, when he went over to DD's side, all would have been revealed...

But still, I cant' get over that Snape totally seems to be playing both sides of the fence...

About showing the mark on his arm to Fudge... maybe Voldie wants people to know he's reutrned? I mean, how can you scare people if they think that you are still dead? *hrmm, I dont' really believe that, but it's just an idea...*

[Mistress Siana]

Why he showed the dark mark? I think he had to, as DD was in their presence

[Holly Golightly]

I think that he was just getting really irritated that Fudge wouldnt' believe it, despite everyone telling him that it was true...

[Neo]

I go more with Holly's idea.
And being DD there doesn't mean Snape will have to show Fudge the mark, I mean it seems that Fudge got more irritated about it.

[tiggirl]

I don't think Vold has anything he can hold against snape, if he did snape wouldn't have betrayed him in the first place. The thing about snape is that he has a dark personality. So, no matter what he does people will find it hard to trust him unless you know him very well. I think that's were DD comes in, he trusts snape and his intentions. What I wonder is, what made snape betray vold in the first place?

[Neo]

That's a thing I almost could bet we will find out in book 6. (And I'm really looking forward to it)

[Mistress Siana]

ahhhhhhhhh!! I don't wanna wait until book 6!! How long will that be? 3 years? I'll be almost a grandmother then...

I think that question is one of the most important ones. I can't believe his reason to change sides was just the sudden appearance of a concience or something like that. He doesn't appear like that kind of guy to me. I mean, he was in Voldemort's upper ranks in a relatively young age, he's most certainly killed and tortured several people. If you look at what he wanted to do with Sirius ("just give me a reason and I swear I'll do it"). He wouldn't have had a bit of a problem to let him recieve the dementor's kiss, and the way he teaches definately shows he likes being in a powerful position. I think it needs more than simply nightmares to make him subdue to DD so easily. I also don't think that his reason to join the DEs in the first place wasn't just the fact that his friends did. He just doesn't seem like a typical follower.
hm, at least that's my opinion...

[Holly Golightly]

Remember, Snape thought that Sirus ws guilty when he was doing that though...

But then I suppose, it shows a big difference in character, doesn't it... Snape thoughtthat Sirus was guilty (*r in hims mind, he thought that he knew it* and was prepared to kill him, whereas wen Harry knew that Peter was guilty, he let him free... says alot, doesn't it!

I do think though, that snape might have joined the Dark side as a follower. I mean, someone has to teach him all those curses/hexes whatever before he came to school, so that makes me think that maybe his parents were baddies too, and his friends all became DE's, so more bad guys. So everyone he knows *in my little scenario* is showing him that the Dark side is the right and proper place to be... Snape's definately got some of the evil thing going for him, but deep down, I think he's a good guy! But I would say that there had to be some big thing to make him wake u p to it all, and thus change sides! After all, he would be betraying everything he knew and had been taught...

What thinks?

[Mistress Siana]

I got your point, but for whatever reason, I don't see Snape as a follower...maybe he's that kind of guy that doesn't fit into "either good or bad"-stereotypes and is meant to be the perfect example that there is no standardizised definition for a human being's nature...
*why do I only become philosophical when I lack of serious arguements?*

[Neo]

Because it becomes your only way to express youself.
Well I'm sure Snape wasn't a follower, but the way he grew up counted a lot for him to enter Voldemort lines. I mean we know he kned a lot dark magic before he even entered school, was in slytherin and hanged out eith formerly DE, where he was going to end? (understanding that he had the power to get to the higher ranks in that circle)