Hagrid's wand

[DucksRMagical]

I think that Dumbledore fixed Hagrid's wand with the Elder Wand and then concealed it in the pink umbrella.

How could 2 broken halves of a wand work like a normal wand? Ron's wand always backfired when it was broken and Harry's wand didn't work after it was broken until it was fixed by the Elder Wand.

What does everyone else think? It does seem like something Dumbledore would do. He's never been fond of following all of the ministry's rules.

[GodrictheGriffon]

I think it's highly probable. And Hagrid must have been a very good wizard to work them through an umbrella. Unless it was a magical one. and he could do non-verbal spells. Do you think that his umbrella still worked as a normal umbrella?

[noris]

hehe doubtful that it would still be an umberella i always got the impression it was battered n if u opened it it would be all broken.

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

I think that Dumbledore fixed Hagrid's wand with the Elder Wand and then concealed it in the pink umbrella.

How could 2 broken halves of a wand work like a normal wand? Ron's wand always backfired when it was broken and Harry's wand didn't work after it was broken until it was fixed by the Elder Wand.

What does everyone else think? It does seem like something Dumbledore would do. He's never been fond of following all of the ministry's rules.

Excellent point. Agree with you 100%, I actually think that it's a conclusion we were supposed to come to eventually, and I'm glad you did. Awesome...

[firemal000]

[quote="GodrictheGriffon"]I think it's highly probable. And Hagrid must have been a very good wizard to work them through an umbrella. Unless it was a magical one. and he could do non-verbal spells. Do you think that his umbrella still worked as a normal umbrella?[/quote] though remember what Olivander said that your magic can be used in any instrument but wand is best. thats probly why when Hargid tryed to fix the side car it broke.

[*Riley*]

I think it still is broken but the remnants are inside the umbrella , i think Dumbledore wouldn't of repaired it because he thought that it would be suspicious if Hagrid waved his Umbrella like a normal wand. And if the ministry found out , it would be worse than just a snapped wand.
That's my point of view because when he tried to repair the cart it blasted off and when he tried to turn Dudley into a pig, into only gave him a tail. Or is that because he was pretty much a pig anyway.lol
So no i don't think it is repaired and no i don't think Dumbledore even wanted to.
That's just my point of view , if you have another then that's fine so i have my opinion and you have yours.

[youknowwho]

I thought of another theory about this though I tend to believe that Duckie's is more likely.

Dumbledore may have given Hagrid his old wand since he wouldn't need it after defeating Grindalwald and taking the Elder wand.

[Ms. Elsewhere]

ooo... interesting theories. It's so tough to say.... whatever was in the pink umbrella did not work properly.. but maybe Hagrid was out of practice? He was expelled in his third year, which was how many years ago? And he never used the pink umbrella regularly either. Perhaps dumbledore gave Hagrid probationary magic.


Or maybe he just ruddy well fixed his wand. Let's email JK!

[DucksRMagical]

I think it was more that Hagrid just didn't know enough magic to do complicated spells well. If you think about what Harry had learned by third year, he certainly wouldn't have been able to turn someone into a pig, or create fire in a fireplace, or do Augmenti.

The PotterCast trio mentioned my theory on the Sorcerer's Stone commentary! They said someone on Leaky posted about DD fixing Hagrid's wand with the Elder Wand and that was me!!! I was so excited when they mentioned it.

[Ms. Elsewhere]

Wow! How awesome is that!

It is an excellent theory. I need to listen to those podcasts more. I listened to one and really enjoyed it. When I read DH I wasn't surprised by most of the plot because ppl had predicted so much in advance! I was like "I knew it!" or "That's what________ thought would happen!"

I've just been reading Philosophers stone again and it's been so good to read it again after so long. And I carefully considered the pink umbrella parts and I have to agree - he probably didn't know complicated magic and was out of practice.

[Athena Appleton]

I see your point, and I do think it's possible, but there were several differences between the two instances.

Hagrid, at the time, was three years older. Look at the level of magic all the kids in OotP were able to do, compared to when they were second-years in GoF. That's the level Hagrid was at. For all we know, if Ron's had snapped later in the series, he'd have been able to use it, at least some. Not only that, but he had 50+ years to practice before we see him actually use his wand, and even though he didn't finish proper schooling, his skill must have improved in that time.

If I'm not mistaken, Ron had a hand-me-down wand, and since the wand chooses the wizard, it may have been a less-than-ideal fit to begin with. (I admit, it's been a while, so my facts might be mixed up and Neville was the only one with a hand-me-down, which clearly affected his skill.)

And he fixed it with tape. Tape! Maybe there's a proper way to fix a wand to make it more useful, and tape is not it.

All that said, I do think there's a good possibility that Dumbledore had something to do with repairing or replacing Hagrid's wand.

[*Bertie Bott]

Wasn't it Hagried that gave Dursley the pig tail? So it didn't work perfectly.

[DucksRMagical]

Yeah, that was Hagrid. But remember that Hagrid got expelled in his third year. He never learned advanced transfiguration. I doubt Harry would have been able to transfigure someone into a pig at the end of his third year.