When can you use Occlumency?

[Un'Anima Persa]

Like, is it only for people, or can it be used in paintings and ghosts as well? Can it be used when somone is in their animagus form? It just popped into my head one day. If it can be used on paintings, then I imagine that it should come in handy sometimes... any ideas?

[Fantasy girl]

i have no clue, but i think it can be used on aminiguses, but not paintings prob.

[PaperFlowers101]

Use it on ghosts? Do ghosts even have thoughts anymore? Ok, my head hurts now....

[Mrs. Luca Black]

Use it on ghosts? Do ghosts even have thoughts anymore? Ok, my head hurts now....

Surely they must have thoughts. I mean they still carry on intelligent conversations. They remember new things they see. They react to different situations. *tries to find something that doesn't also describe a painting* Well, basically I think they're just lacking a real body and instead are made of cold misty stuff that gives people the shivers, but other than the body, they're still wholey human.

[PaperFlowers101]

Ahh...this is confusing......maybe you can use occumulency on ghosts, it's just really, really hard. Wait, come to think of it, what would happen if a ghost had mastered occumulency before he died.......?

[Snow_Crystal]

Umm think you mean what would happen if a wizard/witch mastered Occlumency before they died. Don't think Ghosts can die twice

Sorry - just a joke!! Um god knows - but interesting all the same...

[PaperFlowers101]

*nervously looks around*
should i be scared now?
*freaks out and runs around in circles*


btw, i'm not sure you can use occumulency on paintings either.........

[Salazar Slytherin]

just to clear something up you use legimency to read minds, you use occulumency to block someone from reading your mind.

[PaperFlowers101]

Ohhhhhhh...ok...i get it now.

And....oops......

[Nightcrawler]

I doubt it can be used on paintings. The way I see it, paintings are not people at all; they're just magic paintings. I see them as the equivialnt of a really, really, really advanced computer program. They are designed to mimic people's personality, mimic emotions etc. This is all just my opinion, but my interpretation of it is that when a wizard dies, their soul passes on; it doesn't somehow get trapped inside a frame.

As for ghosts... I doubt it. They don't have a physical brain that would give away information and react to to the person doing the legimency.

I don't think it would work on people in thier animagus forms either. When Voldermort was possesing animals, he said that thier bodies were ill equipt for performing magic. Animals don't think and concerntrate the way humans do. Sirius was able to escape the Dementors because whilst he was in his animal form, they had a much harder time sensing his pressence and detecting his happiness. Maybe legimency would be possible to an extent with animals, but I imagine it would be really hard and you wouldn't get much info out of them, just emotions and perhaps flashes of images.

Just my speculation.

[Snow_Crystal]

Leglimency to access someone else's thoughts
Occlumency to block which is why HP had Occlumency - to block out LV

I don't think you can do Leglimency on portraits - something seems wrong about that.

[Asphodel]

I believe that portraits portray the mind of those who are gone, they do not have a mind of their own, rather, they use the mind of the person whom the portrait portrays, therefore you cannot see into a mind that isn't in the proper skull or something.... my head hurts now