Lupin and Tonks --- Fleur and Bill

[pheonixrising]

i am minimumly happy for tonks and lupin because afdter sirius of course lupin is my favorite character ever

[Mrs. Luca Black]

I can't see Remus being killed in the next book. I do think he'll die young-ish, but just because of the added wear on his body and the "occupational hazards of being a werewolf."

I love Lupin and Tonks together! They're so sweet together! I've wanted them together for a while now just because they're such contrasting characters, and well, they're cute! I would love seeing them getting married because then Remus would be related to Sirius. *sniff*

I must say that I still don't like Bill and Fleur. The way she's always doting on him is adorable in the most sickening way (and reminds me of myself), but I just don't like her and I don't think I ever will. I'm glad that they're happy, Bill certainly needs some happiness now. But, oh, they're poor wedding pictures! He's going to have big, gaping, unhealed gashes in his face. What will their children think?

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

I just reckon it's fantastic to see Lupin living a normal-ish life. He's been living the quiet life for so long.
And I think it just shows Tonk's ability to see people's inner-self.
It's great.[/u]

[Person1]

I must say that I still don't like Bill and Fleur. The way she's always doting on him is adorable in the most sickening way (and reminds me of myself), but I just don't like her and I don't think I ever will.

Yeah, i don't think anyone did, but she seemed more ....noble(?)...in the end with Bill, she didn't seem as ....annoying....

I wonder what will happen w. Bill btw, will he become a more major character?

[Tanuki]

But, oh, their poor wedding pictures! He's going to have big, gaping, unhealed gashes in his face. What will their children think?

Daddy's furry!, mommy's pretty

I disagree with you on the Fleur thing (as well as the horcrux thing, but that's neither here nor there). she may not be an easy personality to get along with, but she's only saying what others are thinking, though a bit more insensatively than others might. She's also a good person, if you look at Goblet of fire, you see the good girl underneath the haughty french girl and I think the Weasley's are just starting to figure that out

[Nightcrawler]

I like Fleur. She really does care for Bill, and as Tanuki said, she only ever says what everyone else is already thinking. I was cringing when I read the awful lyrics to Molly's song.

As for Tonks and Lupin, I think it's nice. I've got a feeling Lupin is going to die, so I'm thinking it will be a tragic relationship.

Seriously; if Wormtail kills Lupin, he'd better do something damn brave, dangerous and honourable for me to forgive him.

[crystallised_pineapple]

if wormtail kills lupin i could never forgive him...EVER!!!

and yeah i agree with tanuki, i really like fleur, shes hilarious!!

[Mrs. Luca Black]

If Wormtail kills Lupin, I'm jumping into the book and strangling him. New silver hand and magical powers be damned, he'll be ripped limb from limb by a seemingly helpless Muggle girl (you know, because the jump into the book would rid me of the powers I have now, heh). I'd like to see what his master would have to say about that.

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

He can't. The little worm will never!
I'll be right there with you, Luca.
Plus the only way he could kill Lupin would be by sneaking up behind him, and with OoTP there it's not likely.

[Mrs. Luca Black]

So true. So true.

Everyone forgets that Wormtail really is a sub par wizard. I imagine the only way he was even able to kill Cedric was because Cedric was in shock. I think he's outlived his purpose and is only alive now because he helped Voldy when no one else would. (Not that that makes him loyal, because everyone knows he's anything but. He's just needed protection because he knew Sirius and Lupin would be after him.)

[Curiouser]

I could rant for hours and hours about how much I loathe the pairing of Remus/Tonks, and don't think I wouldn't! But, I won't. Just to spare all you people. Instead, I shall insert a few select quotes from someone else's rant. So here.

Remus spends most of the book avoiding Tonks like the plague. And when he gives her excuses for not being with her, he doesn’t meet her eyes (a sign, in the HP books, at least, that he’s not being entirely truthful—perhaps the real reason he doesn’t want a relationship…Sirius).

Also, in the case of R/T (and any relationship with a big age difference), there’s a generational gap that is hard to bridge. I’m not saying that’s bad for the relationship. I’m just saying that it’s hard to share power equally and see eye to eye because one partner lacks the maturity and world knowledge of the other. Doesn’t mean it can’t work, though. I know many relationships with large age gaps that have worked very well…it gets easier with time.

It just seems to me that in the case of R/T, I never got the feeling that Remus loved her. He might care for her, but he doesn’t seem to be too attracted. And keep in mind that Remus was always mature for his age. Tonks is, no matter what, still 10+ years younger than him, and doesn’t really act wiser than her years. Remus is an all-around nice guy and a people pleaser. Everyone was telling him to accept Tonks, and he was probably horrified by what his refusal was doing to her. He’s the kind of guy that would accept her love just to make her happy, even if he doesn’t necessarily return her feelings. But that’s just my take on it. You can disagree…I am a dogged S/R slasher, after all.

Now, when I said that I thought R/T was forced, I meant that it hasn’t been a long time in the making. The first time (and the second and third times) I read OotP, I wasn’t an S/R shipper and I wasn’t a slasher. Yet I noticed almost all the S/R subtext (even if I didn’t realize what it was at the time and even if JKR didn’t mean it to be interpreted the way that we slashers interpret it) and absolutely no R/T subtext. I’m not saying it wasn’t there. I’m saying that it wasn’t as numerous or as frequent as S/R.

Yes. You might have noticed that I am a S/R slasher as well, but in this case, it's practically irrelevent. Really. It just seems to me that JKR is trying quash as many slash pairings as possible, and as a result of this, HPatHBP seemed to be overflowing with fanfictionish ships running amuck(sp?). So, I said I wouldn't rant, and I won't. So I'll stop now before I get myself too worked up....

[SunsetG|rl]

i like both couples...

bill and fleur kinda remind me of Beauty and The Beast. It's a classic! and she is definitly in love with him. and he's enjoying this relationship. as ginny said

"But Bill's not that down-to-earth. He's a Curse-Breaker,
isn't he, he likes a bit of adventure, a bit of glamour. ... I expect that's why he's gone for Phlegm.

she might be the kind of girl he's proud to show off with. though i wonder what that has to do with love. but i'm sure he likes her as much as she likes him. i mean what's not to like? all the guys seem crazy for her.

as for lupin and tonks. they do seem nice together. and he did try to help her when she had problems with her metamorphosis. and i don't think that age is really a problem when we're talking about love. and probably he was avoiding her just because he likes her too. (gee, how old am i?). anyway i think they have a love-friendship relationship rather than a love passionate relationship. but that's good too.

[thestral]

ummm sorry, i might be being stupid here but what ship is the S/R one???

[Mrs. Luca Black]

S/R is Sirius/Remus.

I like it for fanfics, but I don't think there is any truth to it in the actual books. They're just best friends.

Brings up interesting questions about homosexuality in the wizarding world though.

[SunsetG|rl]

you can't posibly think...sirius and lupin... i'm dazzeled... never actually thought about this. it can't be... i wouldn't like it to be... well i'm in shock i mean sirius dosen't seem to be... not straight... he's like a sexy character...even jkr said that...i don't think she would have said that if he... oky... i need to get over this...i just don't want him to be homosexual