Snape

[EnglishRose]

I think perhaps your right about LV being weak, but i think that both Snape and DD knew that this is what had to be done, Snape was finnaly proving to LV that he is loyal to him, while actually getting closer to LV just to destroy him. There is no evidence that Snape hurt anyone else in the fight at the end of the new book, he didn't have to hide his loyalty anymore from the order, surely LV once DD had gone could've showed up if needs be? If the order proved real trouble! I think Snape will probably contact Harry in the next book.

[jsshah1]

I think snape is just after acceptance, after his time at hogwarts he did feel out of place and not needed so went to become a death eater. When voldemort went missing, he again felt out of place and decided to become "good". upon voldemorts return he is left with a choice, and I feel peer pressure from the other death eaters made him kill DD, i dont think he hates harry, i think he is envyous of his relationship with his friends and DD and the fact that he is "the chosen one".

[Broccoli]

And I don't think the fact that the thing that weakened DD so much was a potion was a coincidence. Now who would have brewed such a potion for Voldemort? Couldn't that be the thing Snape regrets so much?

Well, if it indeed were Snape who made the potion and if he regreted it, wouldn't he have told DD about its properties? It seems to me that DD didn't know what the potion did, when he drank it.

[Mistress Siana]

Hm, do you believe DD? Maybe he didn't want to scare Harry...ah, no, I don't think so. But maybe Snape brewed a lot of horrible potions, and all he knew was it had to be one of them?
Hm, I'm not making much sense here. But I definitely think that DD expected the potion to kill him in the end, and, knowing about the Vow, asked for Severus to kill him.

[Broccoli]

That makes sense to me: DD knowing that he would die and therefore asking Snape to do it to save Draco and to be helpful for the Order. The problem now is really that some-one of the Order has to know about the plan to trust Snape further... Or maybe he'll just help Harry without being trusted?

[Froggs]

Okay, I'm a nerd, but having reread (again) I find it oddly coincidental that the potion is in a stone basin that looks like a penseive. I think the theory that the potion contained evil memories of LV's makes sense. Memories can't kill, but they can wear a person out! But if they were just evil memories, DD would'nt have been dying, just weak.

[Mistress Siana]

I like that... but couldn't it be that it was a combination of evil memories and a slow working poison?

[Froggs]

I like that... but couldn't it be that it was a combination of evil memories and a slow working poison?

Yup, you're right, it doesn't have to be one or the other.

[selene]

great
i just convinced myself that snape is on the good side, i read these posts and i'm confused again
just great

nice theory about the potion btw

[glamourweaver]

I think Snape did it because if he hadn't...

1. Either Malfoy would have become a killer, or one of the other Death-Eaters would have killed DD & later Malfoy would have been punished (this way Snape can protect him). Either way Dumbledore still ends up dead.

2. With the reality that either way Dumbledore ends up dead, Snape did it to maintain his cover, not break the Unbreakable Vow, and move deeper into Voldemort's trust.

I strongly suspect that Snape will betray Voldemort, giving his own life to aide Harry in Book 7.

Its important to remember, that despite what Harry's interpreted Dumbledore of having told him, Dumbledore still never told Harry the true reason he trusts Snape. The whole thing about Snape changing sides for the reasons he said might be true, but its not WHY Dumbledore trusted him. Dumbledore might believe the best in people, but that doesn't mean he's an idiot. He had to have a good reason for trusting Snape. I'm begining to suspect the theory about Snape being in love with Lily might be true, as it would explain how he was horrified with what Voldemort did based on his report & still hated James.

[Froggs]

Well, if Snape is good, it ruins my whole theory on the Potions book thing, which is as follows...HP finds a book, it has many good qualities, and some bad ones...Harry chooses to believe the good qualities and ignore the bad ones as "mistakes" made by the original owner of the book. Essentailly DD does the same thing with Snape, who is, by no mere coincidence, the owner of the previously mentioned book. Both DD and Harry chose to see the "good" in people, and made allowances for their mistakes, and both were wrong in the placing of their trust.

[espionage]

i'm not convinced snape is truly on voldemort's side....the whole point of snape as a character is that he is nasty but he is ultimately still on the good side....although he is an unpleasant person he is not completely evil. by far the deepest character in the books....

[Tanuki]

And apparently, that's not true. There is not taking back what he did, and there is not excusing it. He's always been power hungry and mean. He looks down on every one of his former "allies". What about him would have held him to any sort of loyalty to Dumbledore?

[Person1]

Well, DD was likely Snape's only friend, and well, DD gave him shelter, protection ect. Thats why i think Snape was loyal to DD.

[SunsetG|rl]

He's always been power hungry and mean. He looks down on every one of his former "allies".

I don't think snape ever prooved to be hungry for power. maybe atention and consideration. as he has prooved to be the geek all mocked, maybe all he wanted was to prove he is a gifted and talented person,good at witchcraft, even if he was kinda a weierd kid. but since no one ever did pay him the smallest attention, he found consolation in the dark arts...and invented spells that maybe in his dreams he used them against all those shallow people that made fun of him. but i don't think he ever actually used those spells...like there is a difference between saying something and actually doing it. (hey i actually said this before in another post).like that spell he inventet: levicorpus. though it was his...don't you find it odd that he actually let james and sirius use it against him? (or maybe he didn't have a counter-spell or somethin')

and plus i'd hate to believe he is really bad. i mean why would dd trust him so much....but then again dd did mention that he is only human, that he makes mistakes, and that being so clever and trusted and all...makes his mistakes even worse. could it have been a mistake trusting snape?

hmm...still all confused...but i like to see snape as the good guy...who's just missunderstood