Broomsticks And Owls

by **pinky p** » Sunday 31 August 2003 5:20:58pm

it says somewhere that Dd defeated the dark wizard Grindelward in 1945. who is this Grindelward and could he contain any significant clues on how harry could defeat voldemort?

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by **Meg Boyd** » Tuesday 2 September 2003 12:31:09am

i think it will have some significance, and it will possibly bring back the character Nicolas Flamel. I feel that we haven't heard the last of the philosphers stone and Nicolas, that story just seems to separate from the other 4. I think the info on DD's chocolate frog card, along with the info about Grindlewauld will come back.

by **american_cutie** » Tuesday 2 September 2003 12:49:42am

maybe they'll have a connection to Harry's past. I really hope we learn more about his past in the upcoming books. The dude who deafeted Grindewauld could of had a prosaphy about him defeaing Grindewauld just like Harry. There could be a picture of him somewhere that could give Harry advice or something. I don't know. Highly unlikely and far fetched now that i think about it, but it's just a thought.

by **american_cutie** » Tuesday 2 September 2003 4:15:19am

hehe i just realiized dumbledore was the one who defeated Grindelward. haven't read the first book in a while and im not used to Dd=dumbledore :oops:

well it could still have a link to his past.

by **Centaur Lord** » Tuesday 2 September 2003 11:47:54pm

I just had a VERY weird idea...I know this is a very long stretch and everything, because im not even sure I believe this. lol. Anyway, do you think there is any connection between Grindelwald and Adolf Hitler? We know that Hitler was defeated in 1945, and so was Grindelwald who is a Dark Wizard. Also, there is lots of controversy over how Hitler actually died...Did he commit suicide...or was it some other way? Since there is no definate answer, it makes me wonder if he wasnt killed in a...normal way. Perhaps he was killed by Dumbledore, and they said he was killed some other way because they couldnt figure out how he was killed.

by **Meg Boyd** » Wednesday 3 September 2003 12:44:15am

Funny you should bring that up because I have been thinking the same thing...I mean the 1945 thing is very uncanny, and the name Grindleward (sp) sounds very germanic...I am not sure if it is or not, since I am not an expert on germanic language, but it seems like it, doesn't it???

by **techjohn** » Wednesday 3 September 2003 11:10:33am

That's a good point, i never thought of that!

I did mention on another thread about Wilhelmina Grubbly-Plank, because her name sounds german, and there is the connection with Germany. I don't know how this is related, though...

by **Meg Boyd** » Wednesday 3 September 2003 12:53:32pm

now that you mention it techjohn....the name "plank" is germanic (as far as I know) since my friend is hosting a german boy this year and his last name is plank. hmmmmm

by **techjohn** » Wednesday 3 September 2003 2:55:00pm

I was thinking about 'Wilhelmina', and I found this on the web:

Queen Wilhelmina ... was Queen of the Netherlands from 1890 to 1948.

...

On May 10, 1940, Germany invaded the Netherlands and Queen Wilhelmina and her family had to flee to England. With no real army or the weapons to even attempt a defense against the powerful German onslaught, the country surrendered on May 14, 1940. In England, Queen Wilhelmina took charge of the Dutch government, setting up a chain of command and immediately communicating a message to her people.

Does this connect in with HP? If so, she would have been against Grindleward.

What does everyone think about this?

(Site: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelmina_of_the_Netherlands)

by **gecko** » Wednesday 3 September 2003 3:48:00pm

*rises at the hearing of the name Queen Wilhelmina and starts singing his national anthem!

*

best queen we ever had here, so people say.. mm maybe that was because she had magical powers!! :eek:

!

Which subject did Grubbly-Plank teach again?

offtopic: I was browsing that encyclopedia and found this, the entrance our our current prime minister:
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Peter_Balkenende
tell me if you think he looks like harry potter! : )

by **Dink Meeker** » Wednesday 3 September 2003 8:42:53pm

Uncanny resemblance!!! :lol: :lol:

by **Augusta Longbottom** » Sunday 14 December 2003 8:52:48am

wow, I think you are all on to something here. When has JKR not had some sort of hidden connection in her characters backgrounds? I think you really have a solid link here. I'm bummed there were not more responses to this topic as I really think it is one that could turn out to be a great topic of discussion.

And about the picture, how random is that?!?!

by **Scellanis** » Sunday 14 December 2003 2:16:06pm

good theory, very interesting....better than other Hitler theories for the books that I have seen....

btw, Grubbly-Plank teachers care of magical teacher....she is the supply teacher everytime Hagrid goes walkies....

by **Scellanis** » Sunday 14 December 2003 2:18:02pm

man...lets try that last sentence again shall we...

btw, Grubbly-Plank teaches(sp??) care of magical creatures....she is the supply teacher everytime Hagrid goes walkies....

grr...having a bed spelling day today....

by **Broccoli** » Friday 19 December 2003 12:18:49pm

Meg Boyd wrote:i think it will have some significance, and it will possibly bring back the character Nicolas Flamel. I feel that we haven't heard the last of the philosphers stone and Nicolas, that story just seems to separate from the other 4.

I heard that one of the future books is going to be called "HP and the Alchemists's Cell", which makes me think of Nicolas Flamel as well...

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