Hermione: Question From OoTP(Possible Spoiler)

[Servius]

Ok, I have a question about Hermione and something I read in OoTP. According to all the legend and lore, the Slytherin house will only take pure bloods. The reason it was going to put Harry in there was because of the mark left by Voldomort. So, why, in the book, did Hermione say that the sorting hat was going to put her into Slytherin? WHy would it doo that when she comes from Muggle parents. She was asked by someone in the book if she was sure that she was not supposed to be in Slytherin, and this is when she said the hat wanted her in there. Anyone else notice this?

Servius

[KBIG104]

I don't recall it saying Slytheryn (although it very well may have), but I thought it was something else, like Ravenclaw.

Anyway, I don't think it's purebloods ONLY in slytherin, just as not everyone in Griffindore is brave. Sure, it's a general stereotype, but it won't always apply.

Do you have the quote where she says that she was almost put into Slytherin?

(I listen to the books on tape, so my spelling may be wrong.)

[June]

Servius... I think you remembered wrongly...? I'm pretty positive that the Sorting hat wanted to put Hermione into the Ravenclaw House, not Slytherin... perhaps you'll like to go back and check? I think it was in the chapter where Hermione had invented a type of secret code on the Galleon which could notify all D.A. members on where and when they would have a metting, and someone from ravenclaw commented that Hermione should have been in their House...

[Doh20036]

The had thought about it but it chose hermione to Gryffindor...

[highsorcerer]

It was during the scene were she handed out the fake galleons to D.A. She revealed the charm she put on Harry's (so he could set the time / date of the next meeting), and it was noted it was NEWT level magic. One of the Ravenclaws asked her why she wasn't in their house because of her brains. She revealed the sorting hat had seriously considered putting her in that house, but ultimately she was placed in Gryffindor. The real question is why. The simple answer is that she, like Harry, asked the hat to put her in that house.

I had rather expected a scene after that where Ron would shoot his mouth off about her near-sorting experience, state the hat didn't consider him for another house, then ask Harry about his sorting. Harry might have had to come clean on one of his few remaining secrets (he kept Neville's, and I suspect the secret of his wand was published by the Quibbler, but his sorting is something he's never revealed, except to Dumbledore).

BTW, I didn't see an inconsistancy with Harry being selected for Slytherin; he's technically pure-blood since both his parents were wizards. It may not be as strong as others (Longbottom, Black, Malfoy, and Weasley), but it's there. Of course, the lineage of Potters and Evans isn't fully known, though there is the very interesting fact they are both missing from Sirius's tapestry...

[Gwared]

It was during the scene were she handed out the fake galleons to D.A. She revealed the charm she put on Harry's (so he could set the time / date of the next meeting), and it was noted it was NEWT level magic. One of the Ravenclaws asked her why she wasn't in their house because of her brains. She revealed the sorting hat had seriously considered putting her in that house, but ultimately she was placed in Gryffindor. The real question is why. The simple answer is that she, like Harry, asked the hat to put her in that house.

I had rather expected a scene after that where Ron would shoot his mouth off about her near-sorting experience, state the hat didn't consider him for another house, then ask Harry about his sorting. Harry might have had to come clean on one of his few remaining secrets (he kept Neville's, and I suspect the secret of his wand was published by the Quibbler, but his sorting is something he's never revealed, except to Dumbledore).

BTW, I didn't see an inconsistancy with Harry being selected for Slytherin; he's technically pure-blood since both his parents were wizards. It may not be as strong as others (Longbottom, Black, Malfoy, and Weasley), but it's there. Of course, the lineage of Potters and Evans isn't fully known, though there is the very interesting fact they are both missing from Sirius's tapestry...

Why would the Potters and Evans be on the Black family tree tapestry? Unless they were in some way related there's no reason for them to be present. And as Lillys parents are muggles for all we know there's even less reason for them to be on the tapestry.

[AccioNiffler]

I can understand why Lily wasnt on the tapestry, you know, the muggle thing. But why not james? I mean there were lot's of other familys on there, like the malfoys and such. i guess maybe james isnt pure blood then, i mean we dont know anything about harry's family besides his parents (and we dont even know that much about them! )

[Gwared]

I can understand why Lily wasnt on the tapestry, you know, the muggle thing. But why not james? I mean there were lot's of other familys on there, like the malfoys and such. i guess maybe james isnt pure blood then, i mean we dont know anything about harry's family besides his parents (and we dont even know that much about them! )

Precisely!!

[KBIG104]

Because Sirius, James, and other "muggle-friendly" people were removed from the tapestry. It's mentioned in the book.

[Ju-DedoH]

what about tom riddle, he's not pure blood, but still ended up in slytherin..

[Gwared]

what about tom riddle, he's not pure blood, but still ended up in slytherin..

But the heir factor, probably tipped the scales, I mean what other house would he go in?

And it's not mentioned anywhere that James had been removed from the tapestry. If that were so, Sirius wouldn't just be Harry's Godfather he'd be a blood relative too!

[Eol]

I thought Harry was a half blood, because his mother was muggle born. James is not probably closely related to Sirius, which is why he wouldn't be on the tapestry.

[Dink Meeker]

I can understand why Lily wasnt on the tapestry, you know, the muggle thing. But why not james? I mean there were lot's of other familys on there, like the malfoys and such. i guess maybe james isnt pure blood then, i mean we dont know anything about harry's family besides his parents (and we dont even know that much about them! )

I would say that Gwared pretty much summed it by saying that James isn't on the Black Family Tree because he isn't related. The reason that Lucius Malfoy and Rodolphus Lestrange appear on it is because they married Narcissa Black and Bellatrix Black, respectively. Sirius Black's cousins.

[choki]

I readed it somewhere, saying that most pure blood families are inter-related...
so if Potters name (not even a single one) wasn't on the Blacks family tree, it would really sort of mean that Potters isn't a pure blood family...i'm not very sure but i always thought of the Potters being pure blood

[yasmane]

well, you're right (I think) about pure-bloods being inter-related.
If I do remember well, it's because there are so few left of them that they are all (or most of all) inter-related.
But even if they are all inter-related, you can be from one lineage without being related to all pure-bloods.
In your family, maybe some of them are related to other lineage, but it doesn't mean there is only one lineage.
That's why the Potter can be pure-blood (well James, not harry) without being related to the Blacks.
Did I make myself clear, I'm afraid no ?