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Transfiguration and Animagi

Postby Mattybiltz » Wednesday 30 April 2003 9:05:02am

If people can transfigure themselves to be animals why do people bother becoming animagi?

and if a person transfigures themselves to be an animal how do they turn back into a human?
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Postby Holly Golightly » Wednesday 30 April 2003 9:32:19am

I'm not quite sure about how they get back after trans, but the reasont hat people bother with the animagnus thing is because you dont' require a wand to do it!

At least, that's what I'm thinking!


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Postby Scellanis » Wednesday 30 April 2003 2:59:49pm

hmm...im thinking they bother with animagi because they cant untransfigure themselves and also because every animagi is meant to be registered right....

so everyone should know not to transfigure a grey tabby with markings like spectacles on her face into a teapot or something......

i mean, i never thought about this before, but in CoS Ron transfigures his rat scabbers into a water goblet.....only he doesnt know yet, but scabbers isnt a rat....so he actually transfigured peter pettigrew into a water goblet
i mean, if scabbers hadnt been returned to his rat form what would peter have done....hed be stuck as a water goblet i bet.....if somebody drops that goblet and breaks it.....does he lose a leg.....or two??

interesting.....i think thats the reason for animagi....to avoid accidents like that kind of thing....
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Postby Hermione » Wednesday 30 April 2003 3:16:30pm

Did he actually do that in the book, or was that just in the movie?

But I don't think people can transfigure themselves . . .
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Postby Scellanis » Wednesday 30 April 2003 3:21:57pm

im not sure, i dont think so...but you have to admit....even if they dont state it in the book theres a good chance at some point during his 3 years ron transfigured peter into something.....

i mean, we know he tried to turn him yellow

and i mean, just cos ron doesnt do it...doesnt mean somebody else couldnt accidently do it to someone.....
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Postby Mint » Wednesday 30 April 2003 8:15:21pm

hmm...im thinking they bother with animagi because they cant untransfigure themselves


Thats the BEST reason.

Also, may be the spell wears off.
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Postby Sacred Guardian » Thursday 1 May 2003 1:33:50am

yes, it's so they don't have to use a wand, and you can transfigure yourself, Krum did an incomplete one for the second task
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Postby Holly Golightly » Thursday 1 May 2003 1:35:49am

In the 4th book, Krum badly half transfigures himself into a shark, and Hermoine says somewhere or other in it that htey dont' learn about tranfiguring themselves till 6th year... or something along those lines!

I'm too lazy to pick up the book and check justn ow, but I'm sure the conv took place!
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Postby Neo » Thursday 1 May 2003 5:52:04am

But, can you transfigurate into another person?.not be polyjuie, but using a wand, and casting a spell like transfigurating nto a pig, but into another wizard/muggle?
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Postby Neo » Thursday 1 May 2003 6:17:56am

I'm not sure where to post this, but it seems to fit here. If a wizard is transfigurated into an animal, and the animal dies, then which form does the ghost has(human or animal)?
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Postby Mattybiltz » Thursday 1 May 2003 6:46:30am

I dont really think that it would become a ghost
because only certain people turn into ghosts
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Postby Neo » Thursday 1 May 2003 6:54:11am

Yeah I know, but what about someone with the characteristics to be a ghost that dies like a ferret for example.
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Postby Mattybiltz » Thursday 1 May 2003 7:13:28am

hmm im not too sure on that one

Do you think that somebody can be an animagi for 2 different types of animals?
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Postby Mint » Thursday 1 May 2003 8:32:02pm

yeah, good question Neo! Lets try it.

*Casts the spell on Neo to try to turn him into the ferret, :evil: .........but fails to remember the whole spell. *

...um.....heehe, that tail looks really good on you Neo :grin:

Anyway, I think if you are in your animagi form - you can't become a ghost. its like a downside to it. heehee (this is just me making it up)

Neo - go to my "ghost" post.
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Postby Blaise Zabini » Thursday 1 May 2003 11:20:02pm

I would think the the ghost of the person, if they did in fact become a ghost after their death, would be in human form. Even though they took on the appearance of a ferret, their soul would still be that of a human and I would think that to be the determining factor.
Or on the converse, perhaps that's part of what makes someone become a ghost. The fact that they transfigured themselves into something, died, and then were trapped in the body of whatever it was the were transfiguered into.
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