Amelia Bones septology clue

[Athena Appleton]

In Chapter 1 of the HBP, did Fudge's and the Prime Minister's description of Amelia Bones's death sound a little familiar to anyone else?

We've heard from a few people who would know that Voldemort doesn't do a lot of his own killing anymore, but Fudge said they think Voldemort went after her himself. Why??? For some reason, I don't think it was JUST because she's a powerful witch.

Also, there are very few times we see anything other than the person affected in a wizarding attack. The only other circumstance where a home was left in ruins was when the Potters were attacked.

I think that if we knew what happened to Amelia Bones, exactly, we might have a better understanding of what happened at the Potter's house before Voldemort's attack on Harry.

[Lelie]

could be, athena. the bones family name has popped up quite often in most of the 6 books. maybe we were supposed to be paying attention?

[Snow_Crystal]

I have been paying attention to that throughout all of the books, but still can't work it out. It's something to do with the women in that family. The grandmother is mentioned, Amelia is mentioned and Susan is mentioned. As far as I believe they were all Hufflepuff - can't remember what Hufflepuff means your characters like now but I thought they were effectively the dross.

She must have been important but then LV sent Draco to DD. Isn't DD important enough to be taken out by LV. Wierd?

[Ginny Potter]

I don't know if it'd be possible, but going back to the note from R.A.B. ... Amelia Bones has the A and the B ... is it somehow possible SHE'S R.A.B. (maybe she's one of those people who goes by their middle name?), and her death had something to do with the locket horcrux? Just speculating...I need to re-read book 6, too.

* going to post this on the R.A.B. thread, too*

[annachie]

She must have been important but then LV sent Draco to DD. Isn't DD important enough to be taken out by LV. Wierd?

I always suspected that LV set Draco an impossible task for personal reasons, but that's a discussion for annother thread.

[Athena Appleton]

Where's the grandmother mentioned? I know Hagrid says in P/SS that the Bones' were killed, and I always assumed that meant Susan's parents.

I'm doubtful about Amelia being the "A" in RAB, but it's nothing that can be ruled out completely. I still lean towards it being Regulus, though, because there's a mysterious locket that was found when they were clearing and cleaning out Grimmauld Place.

[Snow_Crystal]

I opened a thread ages ago somewhere with various options on who RAB could be. I did pick out Amelia but really don't think it is her.

On reading the books, I can't remember exactly where they are all mentioned but Susan Bones (Harry's year) is introduced in PS, There is further mention of her in later books.

I think her mother is mentioned in OOTP in the courtroom when Harry is being tried for use of underage magic.

I think her grandmother is mentioned in either OOTP (when they're meeting to discuss the DA or HBP in a discussion with Slughorn (???).

I'm so sorry, I can't remember, but I do remember when I read PS for the first time I thought hmm, Susan Bones seemed to be important even at the time she was first being introduced. But nothing's materialised yet.

[Athena Appleton]

I opened a thread ages ago somewhere with various options on who RAB could be. I did pick out Amelia but really don't think it is her.

On reading the books, I can't remember exactly where they are all mentioned but Susan Bones (Harry's year) is introduced in PS, There is further mention of her in later books.

I think her mother is mentioned in OOTP in the courtroom when Harry is being tried for use of underage magic.

I think her grandmother is mentioned in either OOTP (when they're meeting to discuss the DA or HBP in a discussion with Slughorn (???).

I'm so sorry, I can't remember, but I do remember when I read PS for the first time I thought hmm, Susan Bones seemed to be important even at the time she was first being introduced. But nothing's materialised yet.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but you should re-read all the books in order to get the completely picture again (I have to do it about once every six months or so, workin on it now, in fact.)

In P/SS, Hagrid is telling Harry about when Voldemort was in power before, and he mentions the Bones family name in a list of people attacked.

Susan Bones is mentioned often in the books, but never has a line (I think) until OotP, when she mentions that her aunt told her about Harry having a Patronus (in the Hog's Head).

Amelia Bones, the same person who was killed in HBP, was the woman in Harry's trial who was asking about his Patronus with a tone of respect, instead of being critical, kind of turning his trial around. Amelia is the aunt that Susan mentions in the Hog's Head.

Slughorn is never so much as hinted at until HBP, and he mentions Amelia Bones when he's trying to say that Hogwarts can't protect him.

[the_sorcerer]

Athena wrote: We've heard from a few people who would know that Voldemort doesn't do a lot of his own killing anymore, but Fudge said they think Voldemort went after her himself. Why??? For some reason, I don't think it was JUST because she's a powerful witch.

Ginny wrote: don't know if it'd be possible, but going back to the note from R.A.B. ... Amelia Bones has the A and the B ... is it somehow possible SHE'S R.A.B. (maybe she's one of those people who goes by their middle name?), and her death had something to do with the locket horcrux
i had a thought what if amelia is r.a.b and vold` found out that she destroyed his horcruxe, then he'll have three reasons for killing her himself:
1.revange 2.she a powerful witch 3.to make a new horcruxe (if that's at all possible at his condition), DD told harry he likes to make the horcruxes from special kills[/list][/quote]

[Mrs. Luca Black]

The Bones family is also mentioned to lose people several times. First in the P/SS by Hagrid, then the Bones are listed among some that were killed in OotP. Susan got a taste of Harry's fame because she lost so many family members. She's also one of the ones that was pulled at the end HBP, I believe, I'm rereading it now.

But Voldemort would never make more than 6 Horcruxes (the seventh part being inside himself), no matter how many were destroyed because that would destroy the magical number of his sectioned soul. The parts that still exist don't matter as much as the overall number.

Also, are you sure that Amelia's house was destroyed like the Potter's? I thought hers was the one where the room was locked from the inside, but I may be mistaken and it was Emmeline Vance. I've always been under the impression that the backfired curse is what destroyed the Potter house, not anything that was intentionally done because that's just not the "Dark side's" style. (I hate having to resort to lame Star Wars terms) The destruction of the house would attract unwanted attention and I feel that a house that seems untouched or at least whole evokes more fear because you can't already see what's coming, but a destroyed house basically shows all.

[Athena Appleton]

The Bones family is also mentioned to lose people several times. First in the P/SS by Hagrid, then the Bones are listed among some that were killed in OotP. Susan got a taste of Harry's fame because she lost so many family members. She's also one of the ones that was pulled at the end HBP, I believe, I'm rereading it now.

But Voldemort would never make more than 6 Horcruxes (the seventh part being inside himself), no matter how many were destroyed because that would destroy the magical number of his sectioned soul. The parts that still exist don't matter as much as the overall number.

Also, are you sure that Amelia's house was destroyed like the Potter's? I thought hers was the one where the room was locked from the inside, but I may be mistaken and it was Emmeline Vance. I've always been under the impression that the backfired curse is what destroyed the Potter house, not anything that was intentionally done because that's just not the "Dark side's" style. (I hate having to resort to lame Star Wars terms) The destruction of the house would attract unwanted attention and I feel that a house that seems untouched or at least whole evokes more fear because you can't already see what's coming, but a destroyed house basically shows all.

Taken from Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Chapter One:

"I won't deny that morale is pretty low at the Ministry," said Fudge. "What with all that, and then losing Amelia Bones."
"Losing who?"
"Amelia Bones. Head of the Department of Magical Law Enforcement. We think He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named may have murdered her in person, because she was a very gifted witch and -- and all the evidence was that she put up a real fight."

Because that last phrase tends to mean that the crime scene was left in shambles in the Muggle world, I assumed her house was in bad shape. Even if it wasn't completely ruined, it is the only other time (aside from the Potters' attack) that we even get that kind of feeling that the place was ruined.

[Mrs. Luca Black]

Ah, I got confused with Emmeline Vance.

But, reading that again, I get more of an impression of the same sort of destruction Slughorn imitated, upturned furniture, broken trinkets, etc. but it's vague enough to be open for discussion.

[darkcloak]

One of the main reasons Voldemort would want to kill Amelia is because she is such a powerful witch.

Voldemort loves to spread fear and panic, hence:

"Amelia Bones killed in her own home by he-who-must-not-be-named personally".

Voldemort is good at PR.

[xtreme_matt32]

probably farfecthed...but maybe amelia knew someting about the huffelpuff horcrux? thats why LV killed her personally?

[Barny The Barn]

Or maybe the Bones's are related to Helga Hufflepuff too and maybe have another Hufflepuff relic in their midst that he wanted as a horcrux. Perhaps Nagini wasn't used as a horcrux after all?