TO ROWLINGISATOLKIENCLONE!! READ THIS!

[LadySnape]

I know I already replied to your so -called OTHER topic, but I just have to say that you have insulted so many people.

You have insulted everyone on this board, especially Paul who put his heart and soul into creating this HP board for HP lovers and NOT for the likes of you.

You have insulted Richard Harris who passed away and will be unable to fill Dumbledore's shoes, although he was so certain he's be around for all the movies.

You have insulted Tolkien, who would most likely have applauded Rowling's works and would probably be flattered that she used similar things... you know, it keeps him noticed and remembered.

You have insulted all Fairy Tales, for they all have VERY SIMILAR themes.

You have insulted kids, kids who enjoy Harry Potter so much that they weep after seeing the movie.

You have insutled adults who have enough brains, imagination and sense to be able to enjoy BOTH movies.

There is so much and so many you have insulted. Next time, go post your views on Anti-HP sites. Don't waste our time on here.

[Shadow]

Yeah, like LS said. you have insulted a ton of people. And i can tell you that you have probably insulted each and every person on this board! Not only that, but Tolkien himself!!!!

BTW, where is Cnderella in HP anyway?

[Luna_Puella]

[color=green]Well said Lady Snape. [/color]

*applauds*

[JRRRowling]

Where is Cinderella in the first film? Simple - HP himself is Cinderella. Witness how he lives under the stairs and has to do all the housework whilst his "stepsister" bullys him. Then a fairy "godmother" comes and rescues Cinderella and tells him that he is really someone quite important. Puhlease!

As for the insults - I find it interesting that you presume to speak for other people - even people who have died. You may be insulted because you can't see what a plagiarist Rowling is, but other people aren't like you.

And the reason why I post on a HP forum, as opposed to an anti-HP forum is because I know what is wrong with Rowling - I don't need to hear it from like-minded people. I'm more interested in hearing what HP fans have to say to it.

A forum is a place of opinions. You are free to click your back button if the contents of a post offends you - that's the beauty of it.

[Scellanis]

well i have to say i agree with ladysnape.....very well said

[Luna_Puella]

I find it interesting that YOU have the nerve to come here and tell us this--it's no wonder no one else will listen to you!

J.K. Rowling is not a plagiarist--Tolkien ALSO borrows from popular mythology, as all fantasy writers do. All fantasy is just one big borrow off itself. Everyone uses the same concepts of good and evil, right and wrong. EVERYONE uses popular mythology. Unicorns, the phoenix, dragons, centaurs--all are thousands of years old and have been used countless times. In no other way does she copy off of anyone.

[JRRRowling]

Tolkien was sad that Britain didn't have it's own mythology - so he invented his own, integrating some elements from established European folklore. The world Tolkien created was clearly unique. The level of detail Tolkien created was astounding, including a complete history of the beginning of time to the end of it - this had never been attempted before by anyone, and was unprecendented at the time even compared with thousand year old mythologies!

What Rowling has done is hardly worthy of remark. All she is doing is rehashing every popular story ever told, including what I see is major stylistic influences from Blyton & Tolkien and fairy tales. It's not just a matter of "having an elf", it's also the plot elements, the theme and most importantly the feel of the story. I tell you the truth - if there ever was a movie on "The Faraway Tree" or "The Wishing Chair" - people would be able to see the similarities with the HP series immediately.

When the Fellowship of the Ring came out, ignorant movie goers were heard to remark "it's a ripoff of Star Wars!". Of course, they never realized that LOTR was written some 40 years earlier, and George Lucas freely admits to being influenced by Tolkien. I admire Lucas for being honest about it - it makes him an artist of integrity - he admits what is already plainly obvious to people. Rowling on the other hand, is so full of herself that she believes that she really did invent the whole story! Sure, she may have come up with some new names - but the true essence of her stories are formulae and a rehash of the past. If she admitted that the fact that her stories are formulae and a mix-mash rehash of past successful stories - it would make her like George Lucas, an artist of integrity. Unfortunately now, she is just a plain ol plagiarist.

Sure she did invent some new stuff, but it's mainly just stupid like Quidditch and the whole "I kill people by touching people with mommy's love" bunk. Man, that explanation and ending in HP1 was as bad as the ending to "Independence Day" - super unbeatable baddy gets beaten by some stupid insignificant thing the author dreamed up because she couldn't think of anything more brilliant.

I admit to enjoying the HP movies - just like I enjoy Star Wars. Both movies are rehashes of popular stories in the past. The difference is that Lucas admits being "inspired" by the past, Rowling takes credit where she doesn't deserve it. As one who greatly admires genius work - I find her lack of integrity unsettling.

[Scellanis]

Sure she did invent some new stuff, but it's mainly just stupid like Quidditch and the whole "I kill people by touching people with mommy's love" bunk. Man, that explanation and ending in HP1 was as bad as the ending to "Independence Day" - super unbeatable baddy gets beaten by some stupid insignificant thing the author dreamed up because she couldn't think of anything more brilliant.

if u think that love stuff at the end of the book was insignificant then im afraid in my opinion uve totally missed the entire plot....i always thought that was a really significant remark...maybe not in the first book but it will be of great significance later...it has already reappeared in book 4....perhaps if u tried reading all four books rather than taking each book separately u might understand harry potter a little bit better....its a 7 book series not 7 separate books.....

[LadySnape]

How dare you insult Quidditch. What's the matter? You can't use YOUR imagination to come up with something cool like that? Is that was this is about? Rowling IS NOT A PLAGIARIST! How dare you say something like that. She is NOT full or herself, either. It's YOU is full of themself. Get the hell off of our board. You clearly don't belong here.

[Luna_Puella]

Good God in Heaven! You had seriously better STOP IT. You haven't the right to say things like this--you must have no heart at all!!

You know what--I'm not wasting my time with this anymore.

[LadySnape]

Good idea, Luna. Why should we waste our time on garbage like this? You have the right idea! I'm following you!

[Scellanis]

well id already started to give up...its abit like talking to a brick wall.....

i cant be bothered to point out he/shes wrong anymore because he/she just repeats his/her argument in reply......

[hermionegirl09]

I agree with Luna, LS, and Sonkem. it's is like talking to a brick wall. why bother...

[Shadow]

Very true you guys. This is doing no good. No matter how hard we try, it's not working.

Rowling is not a plagerist. Even if she is, (which I really doubt,) she's not the only one. There are other people who include things like orcs, and even ME. and, if you had ever even read the other books, there are tons of things she made up.

[JRRRowling]

You guys are weird. You think you're talking to a brick wall?

The best arguments you can come up with is:

1) she's not a plagiarist
2) other stories have elves and spiders


You're all missing the point. If you were all Star Wars fans you'd probably argue the same thing with "A New Hope" - thinking that well - there are OTHER movies with an old man who sacrifices his life fighting a nasty baddie. But you don't get it - A New Hope, as Lucas admits is influenced by a Japanese samurai movie (which I've seen, and the plot is remarkably similar to A New Hope), and by Tolkien's books.

We all enjoy Star Wars as Lucas's retelling of classic tales. Lucas doesn't pretend that he is a genius. Rowling on the other hand, comes up with the same kind of rehashing of famous stories and books, but people like yourselves think she's a genius when she is clearly copying plot elements, characters and other things.

Simply saying "well other stories have elves" isn't a good argument. It's the number of similarities, and the level of stylistic influence that determines whether someone is a plagiarist. None of you have yet to even tackle that level of argument depth when defending Rowling. You just provide 2 lame arguments, and can't understand why you're talking to a brick wall. Maybe because a brick wall is the only thing that would be compelled by those arguments.