The end justifies the means???

[menotyoo]

I do think that Snape was a true DE to start. Then something happened...we don't know what...but it was before Harry beat LV the 1st time. This we know because of the trials in the pensieve, we know that DD had him as a spy and he told the court so at karkaroff's trial. It has been rumored that the 6th book will focus more on snape's past, though i don't know how believable any rumor is, so we may find out why snape turned good.
Back to what he is doing now, I think LV assumed snape had left, but on DD's orders at the end of GoF Snape returns to LV and says "hey i've been under cover for you all along" and he feeds Lv some minor information to get him to believe him and now DD has his spy in the inner circle again.
One last question, Lucius Malfoy and other DE's with ministry connections could have found out about what DD said inb the courtroom about snape being a spy and they tell LV that snape is not a real DE. Maybe LV is going to give Snape false info to snape and it will lead harry into a trap. Maybe LV is waiting to get snape cought in a lie and he'll kill him then!
Well, I've said too much.

[Mistress Siana]

I am absolutely convinced that Snape was not a spy from the start. At what age must he have joined LV...18? DD would never have allowed someone that young to risk his life, become a DE and run the risk of possibly never being safe again.

I'm also sure that, if he really change sides, he won't be able to convince LV of anything else. Certainly, LV isn't infallible, but he isn't stupid either.

About his reasons to change sides...based on someting JKR said, I've had a thought...a really far fetched one, to be honest, but at least it's a possibility:
When JKR was asked in an interview whether one of the teachers had a family, she aswered something about that information being kept a secret for the reason of safety. Now I wonder whose family could be endangered somehow, and I think that would only be true for DD, for he's the head of the OotP, and of course for Snape.
Do you think it could be possible that Snape has a child/children for the safety of which he turned to DD? That would also explain why DD wouldn't tell Harry the reason why he trusts Snape...
Just an idea...

[Mint]

Oh very very interesting!!!

In that case another reasoin why Snape would hate Harry is because his child can not be in Hogwarts and when Snape sees Harry may be he is thinking that his own kid could have been here and so on...

But then again, Snape? Children? hmmm......

Never the last, this is a great topic to think about.

If Snape has a kid I bet its a boy and may be it has black hair like Snape and...Harry

Do u guys think if thats true can it be someone from school? No right? I dont remember anyone resembling Snape in there...based on descriptions of course.

Lol! May be he is Luna's father and runs a Quibler as a hobby

[Mistress Siana]

Oh yeah!! I've ALWAYS been sure that our dear Sevvy dreams of Sirius as a rock star!!!
There is, however, a boy with black hair and a hoocked nose...Krum!!
But Krum...noooooooo

[Mint]

LOL

"Come here Krum I have smth to tell you....I ....I am your father!"

U know JKR usually leaves hints to such things...were there any hints ?


Well why not, may be Krum is his kid!!!!! lol, lets assume that all the kids with black hair can be related to Snape!

[Jotomicron]

Hmmm... I like this theory, but I think it would be a little far fetched for Snape to have such a old child: Let's make some calculus... Krum is three years younger than Harry, and Harry was born in 1980. So Krum's birth year was 1977 From what we know, James was born in 1960 and was in the same year Snape was, so I guess they're of the same age. Now, would Snape have had a kid with just 17 years? Possible, but strange... And who is Krum's mother, anyway?

But I still like he theory!!! Very god one! think this post will lead to something great, some new discover!

[Mint]

Wait wait - was Krum 3 years younger he was older!!

*reads post again* oh u meant older ok..


Hmm a kid when he was 17 ^^ well well Professor Snape sure gets around. *smirks* Lets forget about Krum... and pick someone Harry's age or younger. Hm..

Harry Potter was born in 1980? really?^^hehehe how cool

[Jotomicron]

At least that'what we get if we join some facts JKR has give us: Nick's death, his deathday party and Harry's age at this event.

[Centaur Lord]

Snape cant be Krum's father. It says in the Goblet of Fire, right before the third task, when all the champions are meeting their family in that little chamber. Harry sees Krum talking to his mom and dad. Youd think that Harry would recognize Snape if he was Krum's dad.

[Mint]

Ah, u had to kill it (our theory) didn't you CLord LOL kidding

Ahm....well...... any other suggestions?

[Centaur Lord]

LOL, sorry about that one...
I had actually noticed this a while ago, but i decided to let it keep going until someone else noticed it...but it annoyed me...lol. Suggestions...umm...how about...Snape is really....i dont know...
Maybe he could be Malfoys Uncle or something, and thats why he favors him so much.

[Jotomicron]

Well, we all agree that Snape is seen by most of the persons as being a dark wizard (or something close to it). Do you think that he could be a pure-blood? If so, why is he not in the Black's family tree? Hmm... weird!!! Maybe he isn't pure-blood. So one of his parents (or maybe both) were muggles, right?

I wonder what all this means!!!...

[Mistress Siana]

Well, I never seriously considered a Snape/Krum relationship...it just sounded too much like a daily soap

IF he has an offspring, I don't think we know already know him or her.

About what Jotomicron said:
If Snape is't of pure blood, it doesn't mean his parents must be muggles. It would be enough if his great-great-...-grand-mother was. If you look at Snape's childhood memories in OotP, I think it seems as if he's from a wizarding family, and apparently, rather dark wizards. The fact that he calls Lily a mudblood implies that he's been raised by people like the Blacks or the Malfoys who consider pure bloods superior to others. His family, however, is according to Sirius not seen as a pure blood family. That could either mean that he has some distant relative who is a muggle, or it could speak for the theory that he has a child-which must be a mudblood, then!

[Meg Boyd]

Perhaps Snape could be paralleled to the already parallel characters, Kurtz and Marlow, from Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness. Kurtz and Marlow go the heart of the African jungle during the European imperialization. The two are drawn to Africa by their young, naive craving for glory, honor, and wealth and are blinded by these selfish, amoral, Freudian Id wants and at first refuse to see the horrific murders and crimes agains nature and humankind that the Europeans use to achieve their "goals". Snape was an unloved, lonely, dark boy and I can see him joining the DE as a youth trying to get glory, honor, and wealth...his Id blinding his Ego, refusing to see the damage and evil he does in the name of material gain. Just as Marlow and Kurtz's overcame their intial blindness and saw the crimes they commited through the critical voice of their Superego, I suspect Snape realized what he was doing and came over to the good side. Yet, Kurtz and Marlow were forever changed from the emotional effect of all their evil deeds, and I would guess that Snape would be even darker, especially towards certain people in his every day life if they were living reminders of the evils he caused. Maybe he hates Neville because Neville is a living reminder of the evil the DE caused. Maybe he hates Harry even more because Harry is a living reminder of the aboslute evil LV and DE were able of. My guess is Snape commited some very evil crimes before he came over to the good side, and perhaps he acted as a spy giving vital info to DD and seemingly vital info and minor info to LV...maybe even killing off Phoenix members who were willing to give their lives for the sake of vital information straight from the horse's mouth to better the Phoenix's cause. This alone would make a man mad...especially if he was reminded everyday of his deeds by seeing his victim's children everyday at school.

[Mint]

..which brings us back to the question of the topic "does the end justifies the means"

So perhaps aiding Snape will be one of those "blackened" things that Dumbledore did in his life - Im starting to get a feeling that he DID have and will make lots and lots of sacrifieses to achive the goal of getting rid of LV.

Well, I never seriously considered a Snape/Krum relationship...it just sounded too much like a daily soap

We like soaps. On the next episode of "Snape" - "Mark Evens may be his child" Wasn't that the name of the kid that got mentioned once and everyone was talking about him and Lily's maiden name?