Harry Potter Quiz (house points available!)

[Holly Golightly]

WOW! Dont you hate it when you write something long yo withough looking at the screen, and go back to find that you had caps lock on, and have to delete it all??? (anyways, I just did that, so yeah!!! )

What I was going to say is... it looks like we will all have to wait another day yet to see the results for the quiz!!!

I would say hat I hope that you ahve all done well, but in all honesty, I hope that everyone has all the answers wrong!!!

No ofence meant to anyone there, but I'm sure that everyone unerstands!!!

tee-hee-hee, Holly

[Scellanis]

hmm.....paul, now you have confused me....when they said defined as dangerous i thought she was refering to the reasons the wizards gave for giving the creature the classification...not the actual description...thats easy to get if you read the book because there is an exact number of animals and no confusion depending on your opinion of dangerous....

whereas the actual description was the reason for my original complaint....as in everything can be dangerous if it wants to be....and then again if your Hagrid for instance nothing at all is dangerous...i bet Fudge would say the everything was dangerous......

[Gwared]

See, our problem was that for the first phrasing of the question, I (and HW who answered the question) took it to mean those actually stated in FB as XXXX but with a following description saying not really dangerous.

The second phrasing gave me the impression of what Paul defined as the answer, which is why I got worried. Still HW wasn't around to ask for a revision, so sadly we've got loads missing from our list.

Still, ther was nothing I could do about it so I don't care...just going to shout at other Gryffindors for not being more active in the common room to point out the other possibility!!

[Holly Golightly]

Okay, if you think about the question, and it's wording carefully, the correct way to interpret it should come to you.

Also, if you look closely as the change, what it means should definately point you in the right direction for interpreting this question.

Other than giving out the answers (which I am not doing) I see no other way to make this any more clear?

We Ravenclaw's have tried to give the other houses a quiz which will require thought on behalf of their members, and possibly require some time to figure out. Personally, I am of the opinion that a quiz that the first person to come online can answer entirely by themselves is no fun, and does nothing to promote inter-house bonding. So for these reasons, we have tried to make the questions harder. If this is a problem, well, I don't know what to do, but honestly, I cannot see how it possibly could be.

I am sorry if what I have said offends anyone, but I am beguining to get a little offended here myself. We have put alot of time and effort into this quiz...

Well, that's about all

Holly

[Blueberry]

I'm getting confused and wanna clear it up. I don't know which way to interpret the first question.

When you say beasts classified XXXX which aren't defined as being dangerous. Do you mean we have to look at the beast with the XXXX and pick out those that are not dangerous? or Do you mean that the beast with the XXXX meaning they're not dangerous? Ok here for an example.

graphorn classification XXXX
A large, grayish-purple creature which lives in the mountains of Europe. Graphorns have two extremely sharp horns. They are extremely dangerous animals. Graphorn horns are useful for potions and Graphorn hide is even tougher than dragons' and also repels spells.

Demiguise classification XXXX
The demiguise is a peaceful, herbivorous creature that can make itself invisible. It resembles an ape with largem black eyes and lon, silky hair. Thus hair can be woven into Invisibility Cloaks. The demiguise is native to the Far East.

[gecko]

Blueberry, I can only refer to Paul's post a bit earlier. I can't be more precise without giving it away, and I can't discuss it with my house's prefects as they're not around, and the deadline's approaching..

I think the key is aren't defined as being dangerous. From how I understand it, you need to carefully look at the entire definitions and figure whether the definitions say they are dangerous or specifically say that they do have dangerous tendencies. I've made up a couple of examples below:

Belite
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Small flying creatures, similar to bees, but which bite instead of sting. Their bites cause loss of the left arm of the person who is bitten.

Grofulux
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A slender, two legged, tall creature with a long kneck and a head resembling a giraffe. Grofuluxes are extremely intelligent and have the ability of being able to calm dragons to such a point that the dragon will fall completely asleep. Grofuluxes are given an XXXX rating not because they are dangerous but because they should be treated with respect.

Duzzlop
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Duzzlops live in large communities of their own kind. They are the size of a small cat, with similar appearance but large floppy ears. Duzzlops will scatter in fear at the sight of any larger creature including humans. If a Their fur glows in the dark, and increases in brightness as they grow older. If a Duzzlop dies of old age it's fur is so bright that it can be used in place of a flame or torch to guide the way through the darkness, and is therefore much prized by wizards.


From the above 3, Belites would be dangerous, whereas Grofuluxes and Duzzlops would not.

[Scellanis]

this is such a weird question.......even the ravenclaws seems to be confused....im getting a different idea from Holly than i am from gecko...

and none of them appear to be what i thought was the most obvious meaning of the question the instant i opened the book up......

if this keeps up i think im gonna adopt the Hagrid point of view.......

[Friar Tuck]

To [try and] clear things up:

The question is, name all the creatures with an XXXX (4X) classification, which aren't defined as being dangerous.

To me, that would mean to find in the definitions where it says something along the lines of are dangerous/aren't dangerous.

The only way to make it more clear would be to give you the answers, and bad things would happen to me if I did.

[Gwared]

I think the key is aren't defined as being dangerous. From how I understand it, you need to carefully look at the entire definitions and figure whether the definitions say they are dangerous or specifically say that they do have dangerous tendencies. I've made up a couple of examples below:

Belite
-------
Small flying creatures, similar to bees, but which bite instead of sting. Their bites cause loss of the left arm of the person who is bitten.

Grofulux
---------
A slender, two legged, tall creature with a long kneck and a head resembling a giraffe. Grofuluxes are extremely intelligent and have the ability of being able to calm dragons to such a point that the dragon will fall completely asleep. Grofuluxes are given an XXXX rating not because they are dangerous but because they should be treated with respect.

Duzzlop
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Duzzlops live in large communities of their own kind. They are the size of a small cat, with similar appearance but large floppy ears. Duzzlops will scatter in fear at the sight of any larger creature including humans. If a Their fur glows in the dark, and increases in brightness as they grow older. If a Duzzlop dies of old age it's fur is so bright that it can be used in place of a flame or torch to guide the way through the darkness, and is therefore much prized by wizards.


From the above 3, Belites would be dangerous, whereas Grofuluxes and Duzzlops would not.

This is where I find a problem; technically, none of the three Paul listed here are defined as being dangerous. The Belites could be interpreted as such, but are not defined in the strictest sense i.e. there is no, these animals are dangerous.

I'm not having a go, because, quite frankly it doesn't really matter...it's not life or death, and it shouldn't break what is otherwise a very conjenial board. I'm just saying that questions shouldn't have the possibility of multiple interpretations. (On a side note to Holly, this is why a no. of cretures would have been helpful as it would have solved this problem by process of elimination...but, like you said, also made the question a lot easier).

[Barry Trotter]

very good points
but we all still hope you fail and get the questions wrong.

[Lizzy Bennet]

You know...my Mum once quoted, "You can please some people all of the time and some people some of the time, but you'll never please all people all of the time." How true those words are...

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I have no intention of 'defending' the questions on Ravenclaw's quiz...obviously, not everyone is having a problem with them and some people are, and NEITHER group is wrong.

However...do keep something in mind (and this isn't said harshly or angrily...I'm far too tired to feel either, truth be told)..."what goes around comes around"...don't dish what you can't take, and also, think on whether you should 'dish' it in the first place.

All I'm saying is that if being critical is your deal...if you truly feel you need to speak your mind, I hope never to call you on being sensitive when I or someone else chooses to do the same with you...be it about your House's quiz or something you've written. Also, and everyone (including myself!) should remember...there IS a Private Message feature for a reason...perhaps more of us should consider using it.

Just my thoughts...I, frankly, will be glad when Ravenclaw is off the 'hot seat' for this quiz...like I said, we're all entitled to opinions...and maybe you're right...maybe the first question was phrased ambiguously, however, all people make mistakes...but should they be crucified for them, particularly in the scenario of an online quiz?


~ Lizzy

[Lizzy Bennet]

P.S.--My true point--in case I totally missed the boat in stating it (which, I wouldn't doubt, considering how tired I am), is that it's just a quiz ...you just answer the questions the best you can (and mostly, you all did and probably got some of them right!). They're going to be hard...being the house with the fewest house points, we worked hard on our questions and making them tough, despite being nagged about getting them out and despite the criticism about the questions after the fact...yes, I'm a bit disgruntled on those points, but then, wouldn't you be?

It would be SO nice to come on this thread, just once, and see someone actually praise a Ravenclaw and/or our quiz. Or maybe I'm totally mistaken and all the houses are treated this way when they put out a quiz...I guess because Ravenclaw (and Ravenclaws) has gotten cr*p before, I'm a little sensitive to it. So, anyway, best wishes with the quiz, thank gosh it's over and Ravenclaw won't have to put out a quiz for a while, and have a good week.

[Violet]

Well on the subject of praise for ravenclaws, i think that with regards to the quiz it is obvious that a lot of thought went into it. and through no-ones own fault the first question was (for some) easily mis-interprated.
However i would say that i definately think that the other questions are great, well done to all you Ravenclaws who worked on the quiz!
And like u said lizzie, it is only a quiz after all!

[Lizzy Bennet]

Well on the subject of praise for ravenclaws, i think that with regards to the quiz it is obvious that a lot of thought went into it. and through no-ones own fault the first question was (for some) easily mis-interprated.
However i would say that i definately think that the other questions are great, well done to all you Ravenclaws who worked on the quiz!
And like u said lizzie, it is only a quiz after all!

Thanks for having my back, violet , and for knowing what I was saying and taking it in the right spirit! Thanks...really, people, I love ya loads, but it's a quiz...you do it, you get points, you create them, you hope others don't get points! It's ALL good!


~ Lizzy

[Holly Golightly]

Thanks for that Voilet High!

I appreciate it very much, and I'm sure that all the other Ravenclaw's out there to do!