Dolores Umbridge

[Gwared]

actually....... it might be pretty fun to see her in the next book, so that harry and whoever else she made life miserable for (which was pretty much everyone) to rub it in her face how she was such a bad headmistress and how she was taken away by the centaurs. i think it would be funny to see her back and put in her place.

I wonder if her centaur experience will have changed her?

[fra-sirius]

actually....... it might be pretty fun to see her in the next book, so that harry and whoever else she made life miserable for (which was pretty much everyone) to rub it in her face how she was such a bad headmistress and how she was taken away by the centaurs. i think it would be funny to see her back and put in her place.

I wonder if her centaur experience will have changed her?

she's too evil for any positive change

[Sacred Guardian]

seriously, but now she will probably have to repent for all the bad things, seeing as how harry/dumbledore were right, maybe she'll do lines with the cutting quill

[Morgana]

ARGH!!!!!! i hated her sososososo much i kept waiting for harry to go to mcgonagll, dumbly SOMEBODY and tell them all the stuff she was pulling, especially witht those detentions, that was like BARBARIC!! i really really want to just punch that woman in the nose, cept i can't, and i kinda pity whomever has to play her i mean not only is she a total you know what but shes described throughout the entire book as a toad! talk about hard casting...who wants to look like a toad..

[HuffleDuck]

Umbridge well.. I hate her too, but there wouldn't be much fun without her either

It really suprising me that she's the one sending the dementor after harry

[highsorcerer]

Well, her experience with the centaurs probably taught her a great deal about "lesser beings" and "half breeds". In fact, she stands for everything the fountain of magical brethern stood for. However, the concept behind it (with the goblins, centaurs, and house-elves looking up to the witch and wizard) was a lie, and one too many wizards bought into.

Obviously, it's not a universal lie, because people like Hagrid and Dumbledore have earned the respect of some of their fellow creatures. Firenz told Harry Hagrid had earned his for the respect he gave his fellow creatures, and Dumbledore respected Dobby's desire for freedom, wages, and time off when no other wizard would. Harry's never treated a centaur, house-elf, or half-giant with any less respect than another human.

The whole concept back of it is something akin to race relations. While wizards don't seem to care about the color of skin. We know of three cross-race relationships; either Fred or George asked Angelina (black) to the Yule Ball, Ginny has picked Dean Thomas (black), and Harry has dated Cho Chang (asian). Obviously, this isn't true when it comes to different races. Hagrid's a half-giant and was scorned because of it. Mrs. Black took the portrait for doing things like daring to marry a muggle (how'd you like your sister to marry one, right?).


BTW, does it occur to anybody else that Umbridge was very likely to have been a Slytherin when she went to Hogwarts?

(turns into a parrot and flies away)

[June]

BTW, does it occur to anybody else that Umbridge was very likely to have been a Slytherin when she went to Hogwarts?

It did occur to me, and it certainly is highly possible... after all, she did have the characteristics of a Slytherin, being hungry for power and very ambitious. Also, she obviously favoured the Slytherin House during her term as Headmistress of Hogwarts. I should think there's at least a 90% chance that she was a Slytherin...

[Morgana]

Actually in one of hre interveiws J.K. adressed the whole racist bent of her wizarding society, she said she put it in there to kind of show what happens to a society that puchs to much stock into labels and not enough into individuals, and the whole umbridge in Slytherin is feasible but i don't think she really was...or if she is i doubt shed admit to it, why admit any connection to voldemort, which brings me to a diffrent point do you think good old voldies followers know hes part muggle, i actually think in that aspect he (and the story) have parallels to the regime of hitler, though that may be unintentional but itd make a great study anyway

[Morgana]

SOSOSO sorry hit the wrong button and didn't get to spellcheck my post! PLEASE forgive the spelling errors

[Aule]

umbridge (similar to the word "umbrage", which means resentment) is apty named by rowling. she deserves all the revenge that she exacts upon the students, and she finds out how bad of a teacher she is when they all use the snackboxes to get our of her class. it's also humorous when harry shows her up in the owl dada test. but the best revenge is when does the clip clop sound in the hospital. that's a great moment.

the exceptional feature of umbridge is that she is not powerful in magic even though she is the undersecretary. I don't understand why she could not remove f&g's flood.

[Marcus Baker]

UUUmmmBrIdGe is EVIL!!! It was frusterating and sad to see Harry in detention for the 1st weeks of school for something he was right for. Actually, through the whole story, we see harry tortured when we all know he innocent. IT BUGS ME!!!

[Tuima]

Death to Dolores, the evil toady!!!! JK did an absolutely fabulous job with her, all simpering and fussy, ooohh, i wanted so bad to punch her lights out! 'K, sorry for the outburst, i promise i really am a nice person... . No, but seriously, her human frailties (greater idea of her own importance, losing control) just make her more hateable. I second Hermione, "that puffed-up, power hungry, crazy" old bat!!!

[Vivian Borgin]

No offense to the Great JK; but I found Umbridge to be an unnecessary distraction to the plot, mostly because she was such an annoying, exaggerated character. JMHO, though.

[highsorcerer]

Umbridge WAS important to the plot. The Ministry of Magic was out to discredit both Harry and Dumbledore, who both claimed Voldemort has returend. Fudge did it through unofficial pressure on the official press, via student organizations, Umbridge did it directly at Hogwarts. The Ministry rammed down degrees to halt any implications that things were not as they seemed (despite the evidence), Umbridge enforced them.

Ulimately, Umbridge mirrored Voldemort. She shunned the rights of "half-breeds", and suffered for it., both at the astronomy OWL (the attempt to capture Hagrid) and Harry and Hermoine's escape.

The point is that ignorance or denial only helps evil. She did her best to show that it is necssary for good people to do nothing for evil to triumph. Harry and D.A. rejected that notion, and took their stand. Umbridge, Fudge, and Percy would have stood aside until it was too late.

Umbridge represented ignorance or indifference. There was no need to fight evil as long as it didn't exist. Her blindness to the fact evil existed hurt her.

[Droosh]

I've always wondered why she is permitted to leave without being arrested for her worst crime... The attempted muder of Harry by illegally setting Dementors to kiss him in the Muggle neighborhood.

Any thoughts?