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Postby HuffleDuck » Monday 30 June 2003 9:17:37pm

:eek: Neville is really great in this book... Hope he will have hs revenge upon the one who makes his parents insane :-? :razz:
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Postby gecko » Thursday 3 July 2003 9:57:59am

Somehow I hope Neville and Harry will not commit horrid crimes to avenge their parents. The OotP didn't use lethal spells to stop the other Death Eathers, they were captured somehow. With the prophecy, Voldemort has to be killed, but I would rather have her, Bellatrix, captured and sentenced to death, and that she'll be thrown through the veil.

Neville is my favourite character in the whole series. Really someone I'd like (to have) as a friend. By the way, the wand chooses the wizard, but if you loose a wand (or it is broken), will another wand choose you?
I hope Neville, or his granny, has enough money to buy him a real decent wand! And if not, then Harry should buy it for him. : )
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Postby Gwared » Friday 4 July 2003 11:07:56pm

I don't think they'll commit crimes seeing as how JK wouldn't have such an immoral thing in her books. Neville was fantastic in this book and him and Ginny were the two most developed characters in OotP, both becoming alot stronger and better with age. I hope Neville gets some kind of revenge for his parents in the next two books.

The wand thing I don't know as the only other person to lose his wand was Ron and it wasn't his originally it was Bill or Charlie's. Presumably then Bill or Charlie had to replace the one they handed down to Ron and therefore you can have a second wand chose you?
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Postby Blaise Zabini » Friday 4 July 2003 11:45:25pm

gecko wrote:Somehow I hope Neville and Harry will not commit horrid crimes to avenge their parents.


I really want to agree with this, but I feel as though I'd rather see LV and the rest of the 'baddies' gone for good. I mean, I can't really see a way out of the prophecy for Harry unless he kills LV himself. Even though such a murder would be immoral, JKR has already included so many acts of violence and destruction that it would almost fit in with the general tone of the books, ne?

And about the wand, Gwared, unless I misunderstood what you wrote, the wand Neville had been using belonged to his father. It's mentioned in another topic, but it would make sense for his second wand, which will likely be bought specifically for him, to 'choose him' and thus, suit him even better than the first.
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Postby Gwared » Saturday 5 July 2003 10:12:39am

Hmm, It's taken for granted that Harry'll have to kill Voldermort, but in the fifth book Dumbledore threatens that there are worse things than death. Maybe instead this'll happen? I don't think the good characters would resort to killing people but then again I was suprised Harry used the unforgivable curse in this book (he does have a temper doesn't he). Most of the violent acts and destruction are caused by evil characters.

The Nevile's wand thing sorts itself out rather well then Blaise :-) .
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Postby Lizzy Bennet » Saturday 5 July 2003 1:09:56pm

Gwared wrote:Hmm, It's taken for granted that Harry'll have to kill Voldermort, but in the fifth book Dumbledore threatens that there are worse things than death. Maybe instead this'll happen? I don't think the good characters would resort to killing people but then again I was suprised Harry used the unforgivable curse in this book (he does have a temper doesn't he). Most of the violent acts and destruction are caused by evil characters.

The Nevile's wand thing sorts itself out rather well then Blaise :-) .


Off the top of my head (though, I'm really not sure what Dumbledore was referring to as 'worse than death'), the only thing I can think of, from the Harry Potter series, that has been described as 'worse than death' is a dementor sucking out your soul through your mouth (ala the 'dementor's kiss') leaving only a shell of a person. Even if that was what Dumbledore was talking about, I wonder if Voldemort isn't immune to that?? :-?

Not to mention, Voldemort's downfall is most likely going to be tied to Harry (or if not Harry, then Neville!) somehow. One thing that Voldemort hates is love (it burns him, as we saw in book 1). That 'love' was Harry's mother's protection (dying for him) which can be found all through out Harry, including his blood. Bearing that in mind, Voldemort now has some of Harry's mother's love in him, having some of Harry's blood. While I think Voldemort intended that that love would protect him as it has protected Harry, I can't help but wonder if that won't be Voldemort's downfall in some way, as love doesn't seem to be good for him at all. :-?

Getting back to Neville, I also can't help but wonder, once Neville gets his own wand meant for him (as opposed to using his Dad's wand, which he has been doing), Neville may become more of a 'force' to be reckoned with. We've read in one of the books that a wizard isn't as powerful with another wizard's wand...then again, Pettigrew managed to spit out 'Avada Kedavra' with Voldemort's wand to kill Cedric. :cry: Still, I look forward to seeing the difference in Neville in future books with his newfound confidence and new wand! :D


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Postby Gwared » Saturday 5 July 2003 5:21:34pm

Well Neville's parents suffered a fate worse than death in my opinion and so did Lockhart, I mean being confined o a body with no mind is pretty terrible.

Love, yes, Voldermort will be loved to death by Harry :D . The only locked room of the department of mysteries contained love. It'll certainly be an interesting end however it's done.

Ron got his own wand after book two and that didn't really help him that much so...maybe it'll improve his confidence and that'll be enough.
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Postby Lizzy Bennet » Saturday 5 July 2003 5:29:33pm

Gwared wrote:Well Neville's parents suffered a fate worse than death in my opinion and so did Lockhart, I mean being confined o a body with no mind is pretty terrible.

Love, yes, Voldermort will be loved to death by Harry :D . The only locked room of the department of mysteries contained love. It'll certainly be an interesting end however it's done.

Ron got his own wand after book two and that didn't really help him that much so...maybe it'll improve his confidence and that'll be enough.


Ah, I hadn't thought of Neville's parents and Lockhart...good points! :grin: Yes, I'd say being tortured into madness and having no memory of anything would certainly qualify as fates worse than death. :cry: Lockhart, to our knowledge, doesn't have kids, but the Longbottoms do...poor Neville! :-(

Hmmmm, the Love Chamber. :razz: :lol: Wonder what damage Harry could do to Voldemort there...the possibilities are endless! :lol: As much as I want to see Voldemort come to a sticky end, I really want to see Bellatrix get it, big time from NEVILLE! :grin:


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Postby gecko » Saturday 5 July 2003 5:34:40pm

You know, I was wondering if the teachers at Hogwarts, who'll all have heard what happened to Neville in the MoM, will treat him the same as before. If I were a teacher, I'd try to make him feel special or give him some more attention. What he went through, the crucio curse, must be horrific. He might have nightmares or worse because of it. I especially wonder if Snape will treat him better. On the other hand, he must keep up the idea that he hates Gryffindors and Harry, because of all the Slytherins and their Death Eather-parents. It will be tough for both Neville and Snape I think!
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Postby Gwared » Saturday 5 July 2003 5:55:37pm

Lizzy Bennet wrote:
Gwared wrote:Well Neville's parents suffered a fate worse than death in my opinion and so did Lockhart, I mean being confined o a body with no mind is pretty terrible.

Love, yes, Voldermort will be loved to death by Harry :D . The only locked room of the department of mysteries contained love. It'll certainly be an interesting end however it's done.

Ron got his own wand after book two and that didn't really help him that much so...maybe it'll improve his confidence and that'll be enough.


Ah, I hadn't thought of Neville's parents and Lockhart...good points! :grin: Yes, I'd say being tortured into madness and having no memory of anything would certainly qualify as fates worse than death. :cry: Lockhart, to our knowledge, doesn't have kids, but the Longbottoms do...poor Neville! :-(

Hmmmm, the Love Chamber. :razz: :lol: Wonder what damage Harry could do to Voldemort there...the possibilities are endless! :lol: As much as I want to see Voldemort come to a sticky end, I really want to see Bellatrix get it, big time from NEVILLE! :grin:


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What exactly are you suggesting about Voldermort's sticky end from Harry in the love chamber? :oops: :D *said with completely straight face*
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Postby Lizzy Bennet » Saturday 5 July 2003 6:03:25pm

Gwared wrote:
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Gwared wrote:Well Neville's parents suffered a fate worse than death in my opinion and so did Lockhart, I mean being confined o a body with no mind is pretty terrible.

Love, yes, Voldermort will be loved to death by Harry :D . The only locked room of the department of mysteries contained love. It'll certainly be an interesting end however it's done.

Ron got his own wand after book two and that didn't really help him that much so...maybe it'll improve his confidence and that'll be enough.


Ah, I hadn't thought of Neville's parents and Lockhart...good points! :grin: Yes, I'd say being tortured into madness and having no memory of anything would certainly qualify as fates worse than death. :cry: Lockhart, to our knowledge, doesn't have kids, but the Longbottoms do...poor Neville! :-(

Hmmmm, the Love Chamber. :razz: :lol: Wonder what damage Harry could do to Voldemort there...the possibilities are endless! :lol: As much as I want to see Voldemort come to a sticky end, I really want to see Bellatrix get it, big time from NEVILLE! :grin:


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What exactly are you suggesting about Voldermort's sticky end from Harry in the love chamber? :oops: :D *said with completely straight face*


Oh my! :oops: :lol: Well, I certainly didn't mean it the way it obviously came across! :razz: I meant that when Voldemort bites the big one, I want him to suffer in a big way, and if love hurts, then sock it to him! :grin: * ponders if that sound worse than before :o ....arrrrgggh! :lol: :D *


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Postby Gwared » Saturday 5 July 2003 6:14:12pm

Trust me, love hurts! :cry:
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Postby Lizzy Bennet » Saturday 5 July 2003 7:40:32pm

Gwared wrote:Trust me, love hurts! :cry:


Off-Topic: Awwwww! :cry: I know it does (I was referring to how opposed to love Voldemort is), and I hope I didn't bring up any painful memories...love certainly CAN hurt sometimes! :-?

On-Topic: I still think it'll be devastating if Harry dies, and I'll be nearly equally as disappointed if Neville does . . . Neville, unlike Harry, doesn't have the protection (if you will) from the prophecy (in that only Voldemort can kill Harry and vice-versa) . . . I was so afraid Neville would die in book 5! :o :cry:


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Postby Gwared » Saturday 5 July 2003 10:25:45pm

Off-topic: :D It's recent so it still stings a bit, but I'm only 22 and it was only 5 years I wasted :o but that's enough sympathy, I did the whole moping off the rails thing; back to important matters :eek: .

On topic: I don't think Harry'll die as JK has hinted at the possibility of further books (or rather not said never after 7), and what would the title be? Also the prophecy implies one will live and she'd never let Voldermort survive. I though DD was going to die as I heard that WB wouldn't miss the killed character and as the actor who played DD died I put 2 + 2 and got 7!

We really have a bunch of Cho-hating, Neville-loving peeps here don't we.
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Postby Lizzy Bennet » Saturday 5 July 2003 11:00:27pm

Gwared wrote:Off-topic: :D It's recent so it still stings a bit, but I'm only 22 and it was only 5 years I wasted :o but that's enough sympathy, I did the whole moping off the rails thing; back to important matters :eek: .

On topic: I don't think Harry'll die as JK has hinted at the possibility of further books (or rather not said never after 7), and what would the title be? Also the prophecy implies one will live and she'd never let Voldermort survive. I though DD was going to die as I heard that WB wouldn't miss the killed character and as the actor who played DD died I put 2 + 2 and got 7!

We really have a bunch of Cho-hating, Neville-loving peeps here don't we.


In response to that last part (again, I'm sorry to have brought up any painful memories...feel better soon! :D ), I love Neville, but I don't hate Cho...I just didn't like some of her behavior in book 5...but all people have the potential for change...let's hope she capitalizes on it. :grin:


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