LILLY POTTER - GRIFFINDOR DECENDANT?

[KAD]

I think Lilly IS the one who is the decendant of Griffindor - with JKR saying that book 7 has a lot of focus on her. Perhaps she was adopted into the family? we don't really know about harry's grandparents yet, but presumably they are dead, otherwise harry could have lived with them instead of his aunt? Also going back to the first book, volermort told Lilly to stand aside 'stand aside you silly girl' i.e. he may not have killed her if she hadn't of gotten in the way - why? he killed james outright y not Lilly?

Also I think Harry's ''Green Eyes, like his mother'' has got something to do with the plot - eveyone seems to mention it.

One last thing, Harry must be capable of the same amount of power as Voldermort. Volermort used his powers before he knew he was a wizard - to hurt and punish people, e.g. hanging the rabbit etc. harry also used his powers before he knew he was a wizard, the obvious being he could talk to snakes, not so obvious, when duddly tapped on the glass and harry got mad at him, the glass vanished and the reappered to trap duddly inside. He didn't use his wand, he didn't cast a spell, he just thought it and it happened.


Plus how come lilly and james had a secret keeper? why did they have to hide their whereabouts? if it was purely because they were against the death eaters and voldermort then way did LV tell Lilly to stand aside and not just kill her

[Lone_Buck]

[/quote]One last thing, Harry must be capable of the same amount of power as Voldermort. Volermort used his powers before he knew he was a wizard - to hurt and punish people, e.g. hanging the rabbit etc. harry also used his powers before he knew he was a wizard, the obvious being he could talk to snakes, not so obvious, when duddly tapped on the glass and harry got mad at him, the glass vanished and the reappered to trap duddly inside. He didn't use his wand, he didn't cast a spell, he just thought it and it happened. [/quote]

all wizards experience some sort of magic before they start school. I haven't read the books recently, but i recall Neville saying his uncle always tried to force it out of him, dropping him out of a window or something like that. Voldemort had control of his powers, where he could make things happen. Harry only did magic when he was experiencing extremes of emotion ie, embarrassement at his haircut, fear of dudley and his crew, etc.

[KAD]

I don't think neville would count - the prophercy could indeed be about him, which would mean that he wud have powers as well.

??? dunno what i'm on about!!!! i know in my mind - its hard to write down.

[SunsetG|rl]

There are some similar topics. One on Lily being related to Slytherin and on about Ravenclaw. You might want to take a look there. It's also about the green eyes and Lily's family (on if she was adopted or not).

This is one :
http://www.broomsticksandowls.com/forum ... =ravenclaw
And the second:

http://www.broomsticksandowls.com/forum ... =slytherin

[KAD]

thanks!!!

[FawkesthePhoenix]

lilly was muggle-born. dd's spell wouldn't have worked if she was adopted. harry had to go to where his blood lies once a year to be protected from v.

[DucksRMagical]

Plus how come lilly and james had a secret keeper? why did they have to hide their whereabouts? if it was purely because they were against the death eaters and voldermort then way did LV tell Lilly to stand aside and not just kill her

Dumbledore was told about the Prophecy, so he probably told the Potters to go into hiding because he knew that LV would be after HP. LV wanted to kill Harry because of the Prophecy. Lilly had nothing to do with the Prophecy. Maybe LV would have killed her after he killed HP, but mainly he just wanted to kill HP because of the Prophecy.

[Chimera]

She wouldn't have to be pure-blood to be Gryffindor's descendant necessarily. Slytherin fell out with the other 3 because of the pure-blood issue, so most likely Gryffindors family would have no problem making babies with muggles. The genes could've gone off into the muggle world and been buried until they re-emerged in Lily. Skin colour has been known to skip many generations, so there's no reason to think magic couldn't.

[FawkesthePhoenix]

i guess so. but it seems kinda unlikely to me. pay no attention to the falling snails.

[Athena Appleton]

I think Lilly IS the one who is the decendant of Griffindor - with JKR saying that book 7 has a lot of focus on her. Perhaps she was adopted into the family? we don't really know about harry's grandparents yet, but presumably they are dead, otherwise harry could have lived with them instead of his aunt? Also going back to the first book, volermort told Lilly to stand aside 'stand aside you silly girl' i.e. he may not have killed her if she hadn't of gotten in the way - why? he killed james outright y not Lilly?

Also I think Harry's ''Green Eyes, like his mother'' has got something to do with the plot - eveyone seems to mention it.

One last thing, Harry must be capable of the same amount of power as Voldermort. Volermort used his powers before he knew he was a wizard - to hurt and punish people, e.g. hanging the rabbit etc. harry also used his powers before he knew he was a wizard, the obvious being he could talk to snakes, not so obvious, when duddly tapped on the glass and harry got mad at him, the glass vanished and the reappered to trap duddly inside. He didn't use his wand, he didn't cast a spell, he just thought it and it happened.


Plus how come lilly and james had a secret keeper? why did they have to hide their whereabouts? if it was purely because they were against the death eaters and voldermort then way did LV tell Lilly to stand aside and not just kill her

Lily's (two "L"'s, not three) parents are dead (JK Rowling interview the day after HBP came out). I'm wanting to say she's also confirmed that Lily was, in fact, Muggle-born. That would rule out the Lily-Gryffindor bloodline theory.

The fact that Harry was able to do magic before Hogwarts is kind of irrelevant, since all the children could, apparently. I think Hermione or one of the other Muggle-borns mentions it.

Lily and James had a secret-keeper after they found out that Voldemort heard about the prophesy, and interpreted it to mean Harry was the one who could kill him. That's why they had the secret-keeper, they knew they (or actually, their son) was being hunted.

I dont' know why Lily was told to step aside before she was killed, other than the fact that Lily had the CHOICE to live, and the fact that she didn't meant she actually made a sacrifice, which is what saved Harry's life. Since James was killed immediately, he wasn't given the opportunity to make that sacrifice. You're right, there's probably something more to this story, but it could just be that she needed an out that she could refuse, thereby making the sacrifice that saved her son.

I personally don't think the color of the eyes is as important as the fact that he has his mother's eyes. Green is the least common eye color, and the fact that his stands out makes it more obvious that he has his mother's eyes. If the color were a major story-point, I don't think they would have left Daniel Radcliffe's exceedingly blue eyes blue. Even without contacts, they could have touched up the film, making them green to fit the story.

[choki]

It would be very interesting if Godric Gryffindor had green eyes himself.

Although Lily Evans was muggle born, it doesn't necessarily mean that there is no wizarding folk somewhere along her ancestry line.

[GodrictheGriffon]

Yeah! Just like a wizarding blood-line can still have muggles in it. Think of Mrs. Weasley's second cousin, the muggle accountant. Maybe her parents were squibs! Maybe Aunt Petunia is a squib and her husband and son don't know! since her eyes are green, maybe she's related to Slytherin and thus Voldemort himself! And James is related to Gryffindor. They were both pure-bloods weren't those two? So they would have to be related. And the James was a pure-blood, so H arry is related to Voldemort!

I'm not sure whether or not I knew that the Seventh book was going to be centered a lot around Lily?

Do you think that J.K. Rowling ever comes onto these sights?

[Chimera]

Cheers Godric, it's all now sounding very incestuous and icky!

[GodrictheGriffon]

Errrr....Thanks I guess! Was that supposed to be a compliment?

[GodrictheGriffon]

I really think that Lily is a descendant of Godric Gryffindor, now, because, on J.K. Rowling's web-site, the wizard of the month right now is Gryffindor and he had red-hair and green eyes.
It took me forever to find this thread, again!