Hogwarts, a Horcrux?

[Bextra]

I think he does sleep. Because how would he come up with those plans to kill people and stuff? And I bet he gets hungry too.

[Asphodel]

Say he does sleep, so a group of teenagers could get past all of those DE's? And he definately keeps his wand in a safe place. This isn't Mission: Impossible, it's Harry Potter.

[Bextra]

Who's to say he sleeps with Death Eaters around him? Because he doesn't have friends or anything.

[Mistress Siana]

Dear Voldie...where does he live, anyway? It's not like being an evil overlord gets you a great income, eh? Somehow I can't see him living off his Death Eaters, rich as some of them might be, I think he wouldn't like to depend on them like that.

I think he does sleep, not much probably, with his clothes on and his wand under the pillow. Or maybe he just meditates or something. As far as eating is concerned, I think his skeletal appearance suggests that he doesn't eat normally. He probably still drinks snake venom, like in GoF.

I really can't imagine Voldemort doing everyday things, like taking a shower or reading a newspaper...

Anyway, on topic: I've had a strange idea. I'm not sure if it could work, then again I am sure JKR could make it work...
Could the DADA position be a Horcrux? Yes, it's not an object, but it is obviously concrete enough to be jinxed, since that is what everyone assumes. Yet, we don't know what jinx he used, or if it even was a jinx, just that they weren't able to keep a DADA teacher for more than a years since DD refused the job to Lord Voldemort. Maybe it's not a jinx at all, but a piece of Voldemort's soul that causes the job to bring destruction? There's a thread here discussing the exact effect of the DADA curse, which brings up the theory that the jinx in fact reveals the worst in the person teaching it. I think that might be something a piece of Voldie's soul might very well be suited to do. Maybe if he found a way to bind his soul to something less concrete than a thing...I'd certainly try if I was him, I mean, how would you destroy a...job?

[Asphodel]

But doesn't a horcrux have to be something you hold in your hand? Maybe it's a paper saying you've got tha DADA position. I dunno.... it seems kinda far out...

[Bextra]

I don't think that a teaching position can be a horcrux. Because I think that LV would make it so that anyone in that position would turn eveil or something. Didn't happen. The whole idea's kinda far-fetched.

[Mistress Siana]

Well, in some way they did turn out evil. The DADA position revealed the worst in everyone teaching it. Voldie in Quirrell's head, the liar in Lockhard, the werewolf in Lupin (who very uncharacteristically forgot his potion), the Death Eater in Moody's body, the sadistic beast in Umbrigde and the murderer in Snape.

Still, it's a problem that it's not an object. But I ask you, if you can put a curse on something, why shouldn't you be able to bind your soul to it as well?

[Asphodel]

murderer in Snape.

I may disagree with that.... but that's another thread. Anyway, I would consider this to be a blessing of the DADA position. It brings out what everyone is hiding, which is good.

[Bextra]

The death eater in Moody's body was already evil, so how could it've come out? The original plan was for him to be evil. There's no real evil in the actual real Moody.

[Asphodel]

Yes but the actual real Moody didn't take up the DADA position.

[malfoy_is_good1719]

Well, i think there could be something there...

But if DD put on all those charms, and protective spells on Hogwarts in the past years, and especially Harry's 6th year, one would think that Dumbledore would have noticed something odd when he put a sell or charm on Hogwarts.

Also, i think LV wouldn't have put a piece of his soul under the nose of the only won he had ever feared. I really dont think LV would have risked that.

[Asphodel]

You're forgeting how LV loves symbolic things. I think he'd take the risk.

[Mistress Siana]

murderer in Snape.

I may disagree with that.... but that's another thread.

I know what you mean, and if I remember correctly, I actually don't think we disagree much on Snape's loyalities. I think it also works if he's on DD's side, but you're right, that's for another thread. And Bextra, I think you misunderstand me. I don't mean the DADA position makes somebody evil, I think it reveals the worst part of the person teaching the subject. It has to do someting, for even if it isn't a Horcrux, it's still obviously cursed.

Curse or blessing? It depends on the case, I think. I'd say it's not necessarily a bad thing to hide the worst in you, if you can control it. Doubtless, it was a blessing as far as Crouch or Quirrell are concerned, but Lupin?

Would Dumbledore have known, and would Voldemort have risked it? Well, let's see. Right under DD's nose, Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort has so far

-opened the Chamber of Secrets and killed a girl
-framed Hagrid for it
-made Horcruxes, without DD finding out for more than 40 years!
-cursed the DADA position
-entered Hogwarts in a turban
-possessed a girl and opened the CoS again
-had a Death Eater impersonate an old friend of DD's for a year
-proved himself totally equal to DD in a duel
-got DD killed

So, it seems that if Voldemort wants to hide something from DD, he is very well able to. I'd say it would be foolish to assume that Voldemort couldn't have outsmarted Dumbledore. And, if DD had no idea what exactly it was that LV did to achieve immortality, how could he have prevented it? After all, it was only because of Lucius's foolishness and Harry's bravery that he found out about the Horcruxes in the first place. And, again, I thinks it's very unlikely that a Horcrux itself could be detected. The dark magic guarding it, yes. The conceiling charms hiding it, yes. But the soul itself? It's not dark magic, it's just a part of a soul, and a soul is not poisoned, not even that of Lord Voldemort. Hell, Dumbledore couldn't detect a Horcrux when it wrote 'enemies of the heir, beware!' on a wall, so how could he ever have noticed one resting peacefully in a wall? The diary btw seemed to be different to the other Horcruxes, so I think it had additional enchantments.

[Snow_Crystal]

Um back on subject...

I think it is more likely that the Room of Requirement hides a horcrux rather than hogwarts being a horcrux itself.

LV had access to the vanishing cabinet at B&B in Nocturn Alley when he worked there and I think it might be after that it was broken... etc etc.

Think about it.

[Mistress Siana]

That's a very good way to explain how he would have had access to Hogwarts. Hm, yes, I like that very much... but now think about it. If Lord Voldemort had unlimited access to Hogwarts via the vanishing cabinet, would he then have done nothing more than hide a Horcrux in the RoR, completely unguarded? Why would that be more likely than the school itself?