Note in the Locket: R.A.B?

[Mrs. Luca Black]

And as for Alberforth in Half Blood Prince, in many cases of shady characters, animosity does not extend to lucrative business deals

I just re-read the part with Aberforth and Dung last night and I've been wondering about it ever since.

There's just something off about that meeting. Obviously Aberforth wanted something from Dung (thought not necessarily an object, per se) and he was miffed about the results of the encounter. He also seemed to be afraid of Harry. I can't make much sense out of it, but then again, Dumbledore can't make any sense out of Aberforth and they're brothers...
I doubt it had to do with a business deal. I know Aberforth runs a dodgy bar, but I just don't see him working with such a low, little thief. I wonder if maybe he was just as upset with Dung since he'd stolen "everything that wasn't nailed to the floor" in head quarters?

It also makes me smile to think that maybe Aberforth was afraid of Harry because he knew those objects were Harry's and had heard about Harry's temper from Albus.

[Snow_Crystal]

This is an interesting read...

http://www.canmag.com/news/4/8/1871

[Tanuki]

Mugglenet claims that the Harry Potter LExicon has a confirmed name for R.A.B..

Regulus Arcturus Black - The middle name is defined as "the fourth brightest star in the sky and the brightest star in the constellation Boötes, approximately 36 light-years from Earth."

I am inclined to agree. I do believe that this would explain a lot

But Snape is still and evil so-and-so

[Snow_Crystal]

Yeah that was also said in the article I inserted a link to. Regulas is also a bright star and Sirius is a dog star constellation I think.

[Beluka]

I think Sirius is the brightest star of the constellation of Orion, but it's called something like a dog or something.

[Snow_Crystal]

Yeah I looked it up a few weeks ago so can't remember exactly what it was now but there was definitely some reference to a dog or something.

[punk_pirate_potter_fan]

Yeah I looked it up a few weeks ago so can't remember exactly what it was now but there was definitely some reference to a dog or something.

the constellation is actually called Canus Major (which means i,n some language, maybe Greek or Latin, large dog) and the star Sirius is known as the Dog Star. It's also the brightest star in not only that constellation, but the whole night sky.( and it's boredom that causes me to look up things like this. )

But as for the whole RAB thing, I actually do think it's Regulas Black, and I have a good reason!

Here's how it goes in my mind (my completely insane mind)_Regulas, like Sirius, couldn't stand working for someone stronger than himself, so he became power hungry. I have a feeling that select few Death Eaters knew about the Horcruxes, and Regulas somehow found out. He decided he'd go out to destroy them to become stronger than Voldy. He got a hold of Slytherin's locket and left the fake one to decieve who-ever found it. Then Regulas hid it in The House of the Black(#12, Grimauld place), but Voldy found out. Sirius said that he didn't know why his brother, of all people, was worthy of being killed by Voldemort himself. Perhaps this was why.

Now, if it was regulas, then he did more than likely hide it in the house of the black. I figure this since in the fifth book Harry and Ron and Hermione found an unopenable locket while helping clean there. Possibly the real Slytherin's locket? That would be JKR's style_ leaving tiny details that she doesn't expect people to notice.

meh, who knows? it could be anyone.

[Aberforth]

[quote="punk_pirate_potter_fan]Here's how it goes in my mind (my completely insane mind)_Regulas, like Sirius, couldn't stand working for someone stronger than himself, so he became power hungry. [/quote]


Hi punk_pirate_potter_fan.

Excellent work on the dog star!

I may need some convincing on sirius not liking working for someone more powerfull than himself though. He worked for DD, although didn't like being locked up all the time I'm not sure he had a problem with just working for DD. Besides, not sure if I'd like to work for someone incompetant.

[punk_pirate_potter_fan]

[quote="punk_pirate_potter_fan]Here's how it goes in my mind (my completely insane mind)_Regulas, like Sirius, couldn't stand working for someone stronger than himself, so he became power hungry.



Hi punk_pirate_potter_fan.

Excellent work on the dog star!

I may need some convincing on sirius not liking working for someone more powerfull than himself though. He worked for DD, although didn't like being locked up all the time I'm not sure he had a problem with just working for DD. Besides, not sure if I'd like to work for someone incompetant

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Convincing on Black not being able to work for someone more powerful than himself, eh? Well, Page 369 of the American soft-cover version of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. Wormtail accuses Sirius of being a spy, and here is part of his response:

"...'How dare you?' he growled, sounding suddenly like the bear-sized dog he had been. 'I, a spy for Voldemort? When did I ever sneak around people who were stronger and more powerful than myself?'..."

So he basically said there that he could never work for someone more powerful than himself. It seems to me that what he really meant was that he couldn't work for someone like Voldemort in particular who is more powerful than himself.

But then again, remember the fifth book_ Dumbledore told Sirius to stay put inside of his house, and Sirius couldn't even perform that simple task. He got out and went to Platform 9 and 3/4 with Harry. So, there's some more proof right there.

Just chech page 369, and if you only have the hard cover edition, then it's in chapter 19, about 8 to 10 pages into it.

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

"...'How dare you?' he growled, sounding suddenly like the bear-sized dog he had been. 'I, a spy for Voldemort? When did I ever sneak around people who were stronger and more powerful than myself?'..."

So he basically said there that he could never work for someone more powerful than himself. It seems to me that what he really meant was that he couldn't work for someone like Voldemort in particular who is more powerful than himself.

Well...when did he?
He's just trying to point out to Wormtail that the little Worm spent his whole life crawling around doing what other people told him. Following the people in power so he wouldn't get hurt.
Sirius doesn't follow the people in power because he generally is the person in power, and he has no reason to.
He would never follow Voldemort because he is not evil and does not seek power.
And he spent most of OoTP following DD. He only left to save one he loved.

[Snow_Crystal]

Sorry if this is a little way off subject but didn't know where else to put it and didn't really want to start a new feed as it's kind of related to RAB.

When they were at the House of Black in OOTP did anyone else notice that there were a lot of items that were serpent like in the house? The door knocker etc. Is there any significance in this?

[Aberforth]

I think that's probably down to the fact the the Black family is pure-blood and probably been in slytherin for generations - sirius was a black sheep in the family and he was in gryffindor. All the "decent" black family members were blasted from the family tree, so I assumed that the model Black would be a slytherin.

[punk_pirate_potter_fan]

Yeah, the serpant like objects would have to do with the whole Slytherin thing. You have to remember all of Sirius's family were in Slytherin house (as far as we know) exept for Sirius, and he was trying to clean the place out anyway.

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

Yeah, you're absolutely right.
I'm interested as to how or if Harry will change the house if/when he gets there.

[Snow_Crystal]

Yeah I was thinking about this a little more last night as I'm reading OOTP again at the moment. In Phineas's portrait in DD's office, he is painted in Slytherin robes.

Warning - Big straw coming out here!!!!

I was just wondering whether the Ancient House of Black goes way back to the times of Slytherin himself and whether the most ancient Black might have been friends with him, hence the Serpent /Snake-like items at the house. They obviously reverred him.

I was just wondering though also whether some of those items might have belonged to Slytherin himself and may have been mistaken for Black's family crest over centuries. It's a long shot!!!