Note in the Locket: R.A.B?

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Postby thestral » Wednesday 10 August 2005 11:40:08am

Snowy wrote:How interesting would it be if actually Regulas wasn't dead? His portrait wasn't mentioned at Grimauld Place


no, i'm pretty sure he's dead, cos when sirius and harry were examining the black family tree tapestry regulus's year or death was on it and sirius said he died 15 years ago, i don't think the magic of the tapestry could be fooled.
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Postby Snow_Crystal » Wednesday 10 August 2005 12:11:49pm

Yes of course - that would be before LV lost his body..
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Postby Fantasy girl » Wednesday 10 August 2005 2:57:46pm

it might be able to be fooled, as we saw in the GoF the cup was confunded, a magical family tree mih=ght be able to be confunded also :o
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Postby Lone_Buck » Thursday 11 August 2005 4:59:47am

Wasn't there a locket that harry saw in grimmald place, which wouldn't open up. That could very well be the horcrux. I haven't looked recently, so i don't remember if they described the locket in Black's house. It must have been mentioned for a reason. I think that JKR said no major character's would be introduced, but some would be expanded on. Regalus was mentioned previously, and i think that stealing a horcrux would qualify him as a major character. This probably has been mentioned before, but i didn't want to read all these pages. I've been outta town, in Green Bay, seeing a Packer scrimmage.
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Postby Person1 » Thursday 11 August 2005 4:29:36pm

Yes, ppl have mentioned it b4, it was in possesion of that thief dude from OotP.
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Postby Lone_Buck » Thursday 11 August 2005 4:31:02pm

Mundungus, didn't they catch him sometime during HBP?
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Postby Person1 » Thursday 11 August 2005 4:38:29pm

Yes, i think ppl said he sold it to someone in Hogsmead....
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Postby Salazar Slytherin » Sunday 14 August 2005 4:05:26pm

i know this theory sounds out of this world but could RAB be three initials?
perhaps Regulus, Alecto, Bellatrix? I know the note says "i" not "we" but could this to be to protect the others so they could carry on if one of them died because i would make Voldemort expect only one person.

Maybe if the Dark Lord saw the note and saw "i" he would only suspect one person and go with Regulus like most of us here have and when he killed Regulus he would think the threat to his horcruxes gone, but if there are three people the other two could live on and continue to destroy the horcruxes unnoticed.

i know its far fetchd but not much more then some other theories.
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Postby Phoenix in the Ashes » Monday 15 August 2005 5:53:13am

Well yes there are a lot of far-fetched theories out there, and yours isn't that bad, but it's something that is just extremely doubtful to have happened. The fact that RAB wrote "I" among other things, basically squashes that theory.
Of course we won't know for certain, but I think I'm right in saying that although we'll accept your opinion, very few people are going to believe it. You never know, though.
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Postby darkcloak » Monday 15 August 2005 9:06:26am

thestral wrote:
Snowy wrote:How interesting would it be if actually Regulas wasn't dead? His portrait wasn't mentioned at Grimauld Place


no, i'm pretty sure he's dead, cos when sirius and harry were examining the black family tree tapestry regulus's year or death was on it and sirius said he died 15 years ago, i don't think the magic of the tapestry could be fooled.


He's dead.

Otherwise Kreacher wouldn't obey Harry as all of the Blacks belongings would automatically pass to Regulus. (Dumbledore, Chapter 3)
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Postby Snow_Crystal » Monday 15 August 2005 12:30:24pm

Yup - I concur!!! Rather Loony, Loony Lovegood moment for me!!

RAB is not more than one person - read JKR's interview on http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview2.shtml

MA: R.A.B.
JKR: Ohhh, good.
[All laugh.]
JKR: No, I'm glad! Yes?
MA: Can we figure out who he is, from what we know so far?
[Note: JKR has adopted slightly evil look here]
JKR: Do you have a theory?
MA: We've come up with Regulus Black.
JKR: Have you now?
MA: Uh-oh.
[Laughter.]
JKR: Well, I think that would be, um, a fine guess.
MA: And perhaps, being Sirius’s brother, he had another mirror –
JKR: [drums fingers on soda can]
MA: Does he have the other mirror, or Sirius’s mirror —
JKR: I have no comment at all on that mirror. That mirror is not on the table. [Laughter from all; Jo's is maniacal.]
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Postby annachie » Monday 15 August 2005 12:36:31pm

Snow_Patrol wrote:
thestral wrote:well here you go snowy,

"To the Dark Lord
I know i will be dead long before you read this
but i want you to know that it was i who discovered your secret.
I have stolen the real Horcrux and intend to destroy it as soon as i can.
I face death in the hope that when you meet your match,
you will be mortal once again.
R.A.B"


Thanks Thestral!!

So this actually makes me think now that LV did not send RAB to set up the cave. Someone said it on here and it got me thinking and I know I have agreed with this somewhere else on the site!


Me, and on my reread (in progress :) ) I noticed a comment from DD while he and Harry were walking around the big lake to get to the Horcrux. DD says something like he tought Tom for years and recognised his handiwork in the cave. (Not sure of a pg no or chap sorry. Away from the book)
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Postby Snow_Crystal » Monday 15 August 2005 1:04:12pm

Yeah I remember that Handiwork now but it's still possible that he could have instructed someone else what to do. Anyway, we've disproved that now I suppose.
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Postby darkcloak » Monday 15 August 2005 3:42:58pm

If we put aside the fact that RAB is Regulus (yes, I know there are still alot of doubters), has anyone thought of why he might have turned against his leader, Voldemort?

We know he was a Slytherin (hence Sirius's ignomy of being in Gryffindor) and was apparently a death-eater. Why might he have turned or was he a double-agent all along? Clearly the OotP didn't know and Dumbledore wasn't using him, as he didn't know about the locket.
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Postby Snow_Crystal » Monday 15 August 2005 3:52:26pm

Hmm... that's not been talked about much here.

Maybe LV wanted him

1) to kill his own brother
2) to extract from Sirius where Lily and James were (maybe he liked L&J and didn't want to betray them?)
3) do something else we don't know about
4) or he failed to do something to LV's exact instructions

I guess it had to be something pretty bad for him to want to back out if indeed that is what happened.
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