Note in the Locket: R.A.B?

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Postby Stumpy » Wednesday 20 July 2005 9:50:15am

If that is the case the book just keeps getting longer and longer as he will have to hunt this one down without any clues he can get from memories related from LV as it has been moved. And he doesnt even know if he destroyed it?
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Postby Snow_Crystal » Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:51:25am

I reckon the necklace at Borgin and Burkes that Hermione fakely attempted to buy in HBP is the horcrux locket. I think Mundungus stole it and sold it to them. We know that one of them would dearly have loved to have had it back after whatsername was killed by a young Riddle... Hermione has got to twig at some point.
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Postby crystallised_pineapple » Wednesday 20 July 2005 3:49:48pm

i thought the necklace hermione tried to buy at borgin and burkes was the one that almost killed katie bell?? i may be wrong but my brother has my book so i can't look....
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Postby Froggs » Wednesday 20 July 2005 4:37:52pm

crystallised_pineapple wrote:i thought the necklace hermione tried to buy at borgin and burkes was the one that almost killed katie bell?? i may be wrong but my brother has my book so i can't look....



I was under that impression too.
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Postby choki » Wednesday 20 July 2005 4:52:55pm

R.A.D could just...die of old age???
Whoever he/she was, to be able to find out about Horcrux and the location without Dumbledore knowing shows that he/she was a powerful wizard/witch.

Calling Voldemort, Dark Lord, doesn't really make him/her a death eater. I can't imagine if the letter who addressed to He-who-must-not-be-named. Hahahaha...I thought people started calling Voldemort that after he vanished the night he killed the Potters. Prior to that, wouldn't everyone fear him and maybe address him as the Dark Lord?
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Postby Snow_Crystal » Wednesday 20 July 2005 5:25:32pm

Hmm I don't know now. maybe you're right, so at the moment there really isn't any idea where the necklace is apart from at the Blacks or somewhere in the wilderness after Mundungus stole it.

Maybe Hermione might remember the necklace if they go back to Grimauld Place blah blah and then Harry will call Kreacher to find out if he hid it somewhere. No idea but I think it's obvious that this horcrux will be the first one he goes after.
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Postby Stumpy » Wednesday 20 July 2005 6:06:34pm

unless mundungus did have it i doubt it'll be easy to find unless they find out who RAB is first
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Postby Snow_Crystal » Wednesday 20 July 2005 6:47:08pm

Yeah with Mundungus in Azkaban he's not going to be easily accessible. Let's just hope that Kreacher really did store his stuff well and that Mundungus never found it.
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Postby Froggs » Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:00:04pm

Doesn't it seem like that awful stuff Dumbledore goes through after drinking the potion might apply to RAB, a reformed Death Eater? All that "I'm sorry" and "Don't hurt them" and stuff like that? Is it possible that DD had to relive the pain of what RAB had gone through with LV?
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Postby dibble2 » Thursday 21 July 2005 5:08:30am

Froggs wrote:Doesn't it seem like that awful stuff Dumbledore goes through after drinking the potion might apply to RAB, a reformed Death Eater? All that "I'm sorry" and "Don't hurt them" and stuff like that? Is it possible that DD had to relive the pain of what RAB had gone through with LV?


To me it seemed like kind of a Lord Voldemort trick. He could drink the potion and be fine; he wouldn't care if he saw people being hurt or whatever it was Dumbledore saw. On the other hand, any respectable wizard (i.e., LV's enemies) who drank the potion would be severly affected, Dumbledore especially. He also probably figured that if anyone found the horcruxes it would be Dumbledore, so he set up the potion that was sure to affect him in the worst possible way.
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Postby Froggs » Thursday 21 July 2005 3:45:29pm

But Voldy didn't put that potion in, did he? It was RAB, or do you think the bowl automatically refilled when RAB left the false locket? :???:
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Postby Snow_Crystal » Thursday 21 July 2005 3:54:22pm

Froggs wrote:But Voldy didn't put that potion in, did he? It was RAB, or do you think the bowl automatically refilled when RAB left the false locket? :???:


Froggs I think you're right on this. RAB replaced the potion with poison thinking that LV would be the next person to be in that Cave.

It would be a good trick as dibble2 points out, but only if LV put in poisonous potion to trick someone attempting to find his actual horcrux and didn't leave a locket or a note. The fact that there was a note in the locket signed from RAB therefore disproves this theory for me. LV wouldn't bother putting anything in the bottom also he felt that his safety measures at the entrance of the cave, the dead bodies, etc were good enough deterrants for the average wizard - Doh!
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Postby Froggs » Thursday 21 July 2005 4:26:23pm

I think it the most likely for RAB to be Black, it does seem obvious, but when has JKR really been that tricky? It's usually the readers that try to make more of what's been written. My second choice would be the Brotherhood theory, a group of reformed DE's that HP doesn't know exist, yet. This group would be a big help for HP, all the DE's who "disappeared" and presumed dead, are actually working to bring him down, this would make the hunting of Horcrux's much easier for HP. I can't remember who came up with all these ideas (Snowy was one), but good deducing!
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Postby Fweegal » Thursday 21 July 2005 4:33:06pm

A parallel group, working to destory LV, but with different aims than Harry's, would be an excellent addition to the plot.

Ex DEs, after the glory and power, perhaps. Or maybe trying to make up for their evil former deeds. Either way, if there was something in it about Harrybeing unable to work with them because of their methods or something, I'd like that.

Maybe Scrimgeour is involved in it.

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Postby Snow_Crystal » Thursday 21 July 2005 4:33:31pm

I'm of the strong opinion that RAB is Black and only Black. Don't know about the reformed Death Eaters.

At the end of GOF, we know that 3 died in service (Regulas was one but I don't know who the others were), 1 too cowardly to return (Karkarov now dead), 1 who he thought had left him forever (Snape I thought), 1 that had already resumed service (Crouch Jnr) and there were the Lestranges who were in Azkaban.

I don't think there are any left
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