Just finished - am in shock

Which one is your favorite so far. Are they getting even better as the characters develop over time?

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Postby Mistress Siana » Tuesday 19 July 2005 9:45:25am

To me it seems as though DD knew right from the start he was going to die soon, he tried to prepare Harry for it. How often did he emphazize that he was old and much less valuable to the course than Harry? He must have prepared that journey to destroy the Horcrux for quite a time, and he seemed to be expecting the effects of the potion.
My guess is this: It was Snape that brewed, and possible even invented that potion for Voldemort. We don't know what exactly it did, but it must have been something very horrible. I have a feeling that it is this potion that Snape regrets so deeply. I mean, before HBP we knew Snape was a very apt potions brewer, but I think it was surprising how brilliant he was even as a teenager. I thinks it's likely he made that potion for Voldemort. Maybe it didn't have an antidote? Maybe Dumbledore knew he had to die if he wanted to destroy that Horcrux, and told Snape to kill him in order to save his (Snape's) and Draco's lives and maintain his cover. Bet Snape's Voldemort's second in command now, Narcissa said Voldemort would reward the one to kill Dumbledore beyond anyone else.

Snape finally getting the position of the DADA teacher is, in my opinion, another hint. DD knew the position was cursed since he'd refused it to Voldemort, so he knew he'd most likely lose Snape after the year. That might as well be the reason why he tried so hard to get the old Head of Slytherin back.

The Unbreakable Vow keeps me wondering: Do you think it was actually Narcissa who went against the Dark Lord's order? Personally, I had the feeling that Snape suspected Voldemort to be behind the Vow. I mean, would he really risk his life only to please Narcissa Malfoy? He himself didn't need it to protect Draco, it was just an insurrance for Narcissa. Also I think Snape was a bit too eager to make sure he didn't approve of Narcissa's treason and that the Dark Lord's word was law. I have a strong feeling the whole task of killing DD was Voldemort's final test of Snape's loyality. Come on, you don't honestly think Wormtail was ordered to live in Snape's house to assist him, do you?

I hate cliffhangers!
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Postby niki_192 » Tuesday 19 July 2005 9:52:53am

mistress siana i agree with everything you said..... i also thought that d knew wat was coming with the potion and knew he was gonna die
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Postby Stumpy » Tuesday 19 July 2005 3:29:09pm

I think that it was deffinately orchestrated, but to what effect I am sure. I found that the book only gave us a brief version of events that i'd've liked to have known more about. The main thing that springs to mind is how DD penertrated his horcrux hiding place with ease.
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Postby Stumpy » Tuesday 19 July 2005 3:31:58pm

sorry to add something seperate underneath but it deleted my screen and forgot wot else that i wanted to say!

The book does explain one very important thing that had been playing on my mind, after it was said that LV feared DD. Which is the horcruxes are y DD didnt go confront LV when he was regaining power or the first time he rose to power
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Postby Violet » Tuesday 19 July 2005 4:23:23pm

Stumpy wrote:I think that it was deffinately orchestrated, but to what effect I am sure. I found that the book only gave us a brief version of events that i'd've liked to have known more about. The main thing that springs to mind is how DD penertrated his horcrux hiding place with ease.

the hting is that dd wasnt your average wizard. how many of the characters we have seen in this book would have discovered the archway on the wall and thought of using their own blood as a key to get through it?
And as DD pointed out, madic leaves it's mark and DD taught voldermort so he would have known a lot about the way that he did things
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Postby Stumpy » Tuesday 19 July 2005 4:57:42pm

Yep v true i kinda meant that surely if he knew the end was near he would've explained how he knew this did he sense it? had there been a marking?
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Postby Stumpy » Tuesday 19 July 2005 4:59:12pm

Sorry forgot to add

So that harry would know in the future what kind've things to look out for as it normally takes him a year at HG to find these out (and i know it wouldnt be a very good book if he knew it all :P )
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Postby Violet » Tuesday 19 July 2005 5:00:53pm

i think that with age you dont rely just on what spells you have learnt, experience will teach you a lot of things, and well if you were as kick ass as dd then u would see recognise the way that your student did magic
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Postby niki_192 » Wednesday 20 July 2005 5:35:10am

yeh dd was really wise....harry would've learnt a lot from him... it will make his journey easier i bet
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Postby thestral » Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:00:52am

i really wish harry had learnt more magic from DD, there was so much he could've learnt. but now all that knowledge and wisdom is gone... :-(
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Postby Stumpy » Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:06:56am

the pensive, portraits etc could still shed some light on things and Lupin is a very good teacher as we saw! I agree it would've been more beneficial if he was still about but all the people in the order have different skills for Harry to learn!!!
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Postby Fweegal » Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:36:38am

Is Harry going ot have unfettered access to Dumbledore's office? There's lots of stuff in there. Gryffindor's sowrd being one of them.
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Postby thestral » Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:49:49am

i would imagine DD left alot of things to harry to help him, including the pensieve. so i would imagine that he would have access to DD's office. although would it not have to be cleared out for McGonagall? she after all does need the head's office now.
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Postby Fweegal » Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:51:45am

I don't know how much she'll change. DD's little puffing things might go, to be replaced with lots of tartan, but the Pensieve will stay, as will the sword (she was Gryffindor's Head).

DD might well have left Harry some of his own memories for use.
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Postby Stumpy » Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:55:03am

I think she must realise Harry's importance now, as she has always tried to treat him as just another student as much as possible
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