Snape

[Gwared]

I've seen a few topics condemming him, and a few that agree with my views.

IMO he would have discussed his vow with DD and so DD knew what he would ultimately have to do. Snape probably reguarly reported on Draco's doings and thus gave DD a knowledge of how much time he had left to get Harry on to the Horcrux task.

To me it sounded like DD begged Snape to kill him, possibly to save Draco who I imagine is going to play a huge part in the end of the next book in saving Harry. DD knew that if Draco got a taste of killing, he would be off down the path of his father.

I don't doubt for a second DD is dead due to the portrait in the Headmaster's Study that even McGonagall had to steel herself against.

Also, that final outburst when he was fighting Harry sounded to me more like he was telling Harry he had got it wrong; the image I had in my mind was of a frustrated Snape screaming at Harry, willing him to see beyond his predjudice and look at the bigger picture.

Remember also that he wasn't keen on the final part of the Vow from Narcissa...but he had little choice. He's treading on thin ice anyway playing both sides. I think his rapid exit was purely to ensure Draco's escape; which again leads back to my hunch of Draco's greater involvement in the next book.

[Imelyen]

Couldn't agree more. My thoughts on Snape completely.

[Tanuki]

I just think he finally got t ired of playing on both sides and finally took his opportunity. Maybe, just maybe, Harry was right about Snape all along

[thestral]

i'm inclined to believe harry now. i think snape's get everyone (in the books and in the forums!) confused as to who exactly he's playing. he had it perfect, whatever he does he can say it was a act for either DD or Voldemort.

i think snape has just shown his true colours and there's nowt much more to it unfortunatly. and bear in mind, i wanted to see a good side to snape, before HBP i had hoped to see more respect and co-operation between harry and snape. i thought something was going to happen to make them work together for a common good, thus forcing them to finally respect each other's talents.

so i am bitterly disappointed in this. but every bit of logic is telling me, that snape has just shown his true colours and declared his allegiances with no more ado.

[Scarlet Lioness]

just think he finally got t ired of playing on both sides and finally took his opportunity. Maybe, just maybe, Harry was right about Snape all along

I agree I had a feeling Harry was right in every book that he had trouble with Snape...

[Lelie]

if snape was playing both sides before... he clearly can't anymore. he's been seen killing dumbledore. but as i agree with the idea that dd asked snape to kill him, i have to forgive him somewhat. (but not much mind you.) someone else must know of the plan for snape to kill dd if snape is to continue playing both sides. now, who that might be, i don't know... but i've only had one read through...

[Imelyen]

I will absolutely REFUSE to believe that Snape is on Voldemorts side until I am presented with undeniable facts that prove he is.

[Gwared]

Plus, Snape's had so many chances to kill anyone at Hogwarts; he's always come across to me as the wronged anti-hero of the books.

[Dacre]

I agree with Imelyen - I don't believe Snape is actually evil - I think possibly 'cos he loved Lilly, but ultimately, I think he is on the side of good. I also think Wormtail will at some point help Harry since he saved his life.
Snape has had SOOOO many chances to kill Harry.
Also, during the occlumancy lessons, Snape hid things from Harry in a pensive, I think this could be the full plans he and Dumbledore had. DD has had plans he's not told Harry before.

[Augusta Longbottom]

Gwared, I think you are right on the money. I know part of me is in denial that Snape could go this wrong after all that DD has done for him...but really, there are so many tiny loopholes that give me hope that Snape was only acting as DD had hoped he would should this situation arrive.

[crystallised_pineapple]

there is also the fact that DD trusted snape and there doesn't seem to be any evisence for what this was... ahrry thinks he knows but i think there must be something more...

then again maybe i am complicating things and they are simply as they seem....

[Lelie]

well, if dd actually WAS right to trust him, it had better be for more of a reason than claiming to feel bad about james and lily. that felt a little weak to me, there has to be much more to it than that. frankly, i don't think that snape would be that upset that someone he clearly hated was dead, even if it was a little bit his fault. lily, well, maybe he did feel badly about that.
i'm still wavering on him being all evil. i KNOW he isn't all good... he would have died for dd if he was. we could be just reading into it, as we have all been believing (at least somewhat) that he could be trusted for 5 books now. maybe we just can't let go of that hope?

[silverserpent]

It's true that we have slowly been convinced over a period of 5 books that Snape could be trusted, but I still think that he can be.

true he will never be good to the core, but that does not necessarily mean that he can't still be good.

I'm sure he would have died for DD, if he was allowed, but perhaps dumbledore had made Snape promise to kill him, like he had forced Harry to continue to feed DD the potion. the argument that Hagrid could have overheard in the woods could have been DD forcing sanpe to promise to kill him and Snape objecting and arguing against it.

Also DD is not the type of man who would plead to not be killed no matter who it was. He stated in book one about Flamel that "After all, to the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure." DD would strike me as a person with a well-organized mind who did not fear death. I do not think that DD was pleading to live, but for Snape to kill him to save Draco and himself.

this could just be me and my hope that Snape is indeed not evil.

[xXxFawkesSong]

I agree with Gwared and silverserpent Nice points

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

Aherrrm.
I still don't want to believe Snape's with Voldemort. Maybe he just loves Narcissa? Am I being blissfully ignorant?
He's just such an interesting character, and the whole Prince thing...
He made an Unbreakable Vow, and he had to do it.
Oh my goodness as I was thikning of this I just thought of who R.A.B could be!!! I'm stopping this short, and I'll find a topic about that to type it in somewhere.[/b]