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Postby Asphodel » Saturday 12 November 2005 6:54:20pm

But LV would never say something like "silly girl" Maybe he did the killing of Harry because of the prophecy, but what about his parents?

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Postby Phoenix in the Ashes » Sunday 13 November 2005 5:00:14am

There's that whole "never" thing again.
Of course he would, he didn't want to kill Lily right away because he needed to dispose of Harry as quickly as possible, and wanted her to move. Sure it might have been quicker just to kill them both quickly, but even LV has brains.
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Postby Scarlet Lioness » Sunday 13 November 2005 6:27:19pm

Yeah...he did want her to move out of the way, but she didnt so he just disposed of her as quickly as possible then turned onto Harry...
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Postby Asphodel » Tuesday 15 November 2005 2:53:20am

Yes, but he would say something like, "Get out of the way," not "Stand aside you silly girl," in the same fashion Rita Skeeter and Snape say it.
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Postby Snow_Crystal » Tuesday 6 June 2006 1:58:35pm

It's only just dawned on me so excuse this theory if it's been said before.

Why didn't Lily just apparate with Harry before LV came after them? James gave her warning that LV was there and so she could have had time.
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Postby Mistress Siana » Thursday 15 June 2006 7:03:56pm

Maybe they put apparation wards up and trapped themselves. Actually, you could ask that everytime there's a fight of some kind...JKR said something about people not wanting to run away forever and fight instead, but I find that a bit shallow. I tend to think that JKR didn't quite considers this particular plothole.

About LV not wanting to kill Lily...well, she was a mudblood, possibly LV considered her so much beneath him that she wasn't worth death by his hands, only important enemies are granted this honour.

Or he wanted somebody to live and tell the tale, make sure everybody would know he defeated the boy of the prophecy.
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Postby Quicksilver » Wednesday 6 September 2006 2:21:33am

My best guess is that it was Peter. Wormtail. Because if I was Lord Voldemort, i would make DAMN sure I had Wormtail under supervision. A man who turns his coat will surely turn it again, and all that. If he went straight to Voldie after he was made secret keeper, Voldemort would want to go out as soon as possible to get in his 'killins'. But he'd also probably want Peter there, to make sure Peter was telling him the truth. Also here woul be the added bonu of james/Lily taking down wards and letting them in, because they assumed it was just Peter, and not the most evil wizard in the world....

Hang on a minute, if Snape had already turned against LV before his downfall, but was a double agent rather than leaving the DE's altogether, why didn't he warn everyone that Peter was a traitor? He never even told DD about Peter beng a DE, that seems like something he would have divuldged if he was truly reformed.

Ah, but Peter was weak and very cowardly. He wouldn't be in the inner circle, now would he be? And the only time we ever saw Death Eaters being named was when Voldemort was adressing the inner circle in GoF And remember Karkaroff saying in book 4 that no one knew the names of every Death Eater? Snape wouldn't have been able to be sure that Sirius was or was not a Death Eater, same with Peter.

And as for Snape being at Godrics Hollow: watching the Potters be killed wasn't what made him turn. he turned way before that, at lthe very least 1 month before: remember, he was teaching at Hogwarts before then. Also, the prophecy was made a year before Harry was born, and his parents were killed a year AFTER he was born: It wouldn' t take Voldie two years to figure out what the prophecy meant, and since it was the realization that he'd doomed Lily and James that made Snape turn....he was on our side way before then.
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