Potential Future Death in Book 6 or 7 (spoilers)

[Tanuki]

And I think you interpreted it as me wanting Cho to die. As it happens, it's not what I meant, and simply wanted to made my point clear that if somebody had to die, I would prefer Cho to, say, the twins.
I'm sure Percy will get to fix things up with the Weaslys. It'll be interesting though, and I guarantee we'll see the words "stupid git" come from Fred and George's mouths a few times in that chapter.

Anyhow, we better just all keep our figers crossed and hope it's only Cho that dies.

I'd say I have good reason to reach this assumption

Also, it seems like anytime someone suggests that someone's gonna die, half a dozen people jump back with "no, he can't die-I'll hate J.K.R. if she kills him - No ,it would be terrible and would destroy Harry if he dies - It would become too depressing if he dies - Voldermort would have too much power if he dies." So, I decided to make a once and for all statement

[Cedric]

so whats the statement?!? don't leave me hanging like this!! haha

Personally, I think a couple of people are going to die and one or two of them are well known. I can't see Percy coming back really fast. Seeing how he was so ignorant of his parents existance, maybe he'll be going over to the dark side?!

[Tanuki]

2)Someone's gonna die, that's the way the books are, get used to it

That statement. I made it a while back

[Cedric]

Oh I see. I'm preparing to see Harry and Voldemort (maybe the trio) die. That way if they don't die, wow, my excitment will be heard from here to china. Its just hard to know what she's going to do because its a childrens book.

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

Oh what a happy comment, it brings tear to my eye..............
Almost sounds as though your patronising everyone Tanuki. Or maybe not... either way it sounds cold. I think they'll find a way to survive, just maybe, if Harry dies.
Lol I'm not gonna get into the whole Harry Potter is a children's book conversation, it just repeats itself. Sooooooooooo I'm gonna go back to the topic. Which I can't remember so I'm go scroll down and read the previous posts...
ahh I've got it, it's the who will die sort of thing.
Now I know why I may have said Cho. Becuase she's not a vital role in the story, but her dying will affect Harry at least in some way, even if he doesn't have feelings for her any more.

[Cedric]

It might of been on another post or it could have been on this one but I do remember a conversation about Cho being one who people thought were going to die.

[Tanuki]

People die in kid's book too. they have died before, they will die again; get over it. Children all over the world don't seem to have a problem when characters die (in japan, when main characters die- violently) It seems like only here that people seem to have a problem with it. In the book, we've had allusion to pseudosexual material (Fleur in the bushes- what do you think she was doing in those bushes?) Torture (Cruatious Curse, the Longbottoms) murder (sirius, Bertha, etc.)

Let me guess phoenix; you're an american

The thing with Cho dying is that she's not involved in this war at all. Why would anybody go after her? I say its someone actually involved in this war

[Cedric]

Come on now, I'm an american The only problem I have is if she kills off someone popular in this first book too soon. Maybe at the end, a few people can die. In the beginning, it would actually make the book way more exciting if when Harry went to where ever he was going, someone died. I'm all about people dying...its just when and who.

[Tanuki]

I'm an american too, but I notice a disturbing pattern where we american's seem to like the super happy ending, or the scooby ending...yeah teh scooby ending

[Nightcrawler]

The books include death because death is a part of life. It happens. A fictional world where nobody dies would not seem real at all, and that would defeat the whole purpose of creating the fictional world. It is because of this reason that the humans rejected the first matrix.

Besides, JKR has already said that more people will die. So it's a fact. The question is who.

Here's my opinion: I think that Dumbledore will die, because it's just damn tradition to "remove" the mentor figure so that the young hero is forced to step out into the world on his own. Examples: Remirez (Highlander), Obi-Wan Kenobi, Qui Gon Jinn, Yoda, Whistler (sort of) [Blade], Uncle Ben (Spider-man), Sirius Black, Connor McLeod and Season 6 of Buffy.

I think that Percy has to die to redeem himself and so does Wormtail.

I feel that if Wormtail dies (quite likely) that Lupin should die too. That way the Marauders would all be together once again.

I'm hoping that Snape doesn't die but I suspect that he might.

And Voldermort will die of course.

[Tanuki]

The books include death because death is a part of life. It happens. A fictional world where nobody dies would not seem real at all, and that would defeat the whole purpose of creating the fictional world. It is because of this reason that the humans rejected the first matrix.

Besides, JKR has already said that more people will die. So it's a fact. The question is who.

Here's my opinion: I think that Dumbledore will die, because it's just damn tradition to "remove" the mentor figure so that the young hero is forced to step out into the world on his own. Examples: Remirez (Highlander), Obi-Wan Kenobi, Qui Gon Jinn, Yoda, Whistler (sort of) [Blade], Uncle Ben (Spider-man), Sirius Black, Connor McLeod and Season 6 of Buffy.

I think that Percy has to die to redeem himself and so does Wormtail.

I feel that if Wormtail dies (quite likely) that Lupin should die too. That way the Marauders would all be together once again.

I'm hoping that Snape doesn't die but I suspect that he might.

And Voldermort will die of course.

Those are all my beliefs as well

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

Let me guess phoenix; you're an american

As a matter of fact, Tanuki, I'm not American. I'm just P****d off with you for saying "get over it" over and over again. It's annoying.
This paragraph that Nightcrawler wrote though:

I think that Percy has to die to redeem himself and so does Wormtail.

Just seems kinda stupid. Saying Percy has to die is... I dunno, I just don't get why you think that having your own opnions, and following something you believe in (whether it be wrong or right) would warrant death.
And btw Tanuki, I believe part of the reason I'm hacked off with you is coz you attacked my opinion on my very first post lol...

[Nightcrawler]

Perhaps everyone should just stop with the namecalling. We are here to share ideas, and people are going to disagree. If you can't deal with differing opinions or ideas, I sugest you stay off the internet. I'm not talking about anyone specificly, just the tone the conversation seems to have taken. I hope it passes quickly, as I would hate for this thread to be locked.


Pheonix, I would hesitate to call anyone or their opinions "stupid", especially if you are upset that someone may have "attacked" your opinions earlier.


As for what I wrote... what words did I use again?

I think that Percy has to die to redeem himself and so does Wormtail.

Yes. That is what I think. It's not like I tried to pass off my personal opinion as irrefutable fact. I think it's implied pretty clearly that this entire topic revolves around different opinions. I wrote my opinion and I could very well be wrong. I never said otherwise.

Here's what I said in an earlier post:

I've got a feeling that Percy will die. I'm just hoping that he gets a chance to reconsile things with his parents before that happens.

Once again, I'm just sharing my personal opinion. If you disagee, fine. There is only one person in the world who knows what will happen in the upcoming books, so getting all worked up over something like this is pretty pointless.

Why do I feel that Percy is going to die? Well, he screwed up. He completely disowned his familly and friends, and blindly followed a man to the point where he was being willfully ignorent of what was happening around him. Why did he do this? Well, because working with Fudge made him feel all important. Essentially, Percy put his own ego ahead of the safety of dozens of people, many of those close to him. Do you think that Percy would have followed Fudge and his ideals if Fudge wasn't in such a powerful position?

I'm not saying that he will die or even that he deserves to die. What I'm saying is, that given his previous actions, from a narrative point of view, it is quite possible for him to die. Because these books are familly-friendly, I feel that if Percy does die, it will be in a redemptive kind of way.

Just. My. Opinion.

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

Pheonix, I would hesitate to call anyone or their opinions "stupid", especially if you are upset that someone may have "attacked" your opinions earlier.

As for what I wrote... what words did I use again?
I think that Percy has to die to redeem himself and so does Wormtail.
Why do I feel that Percy is going to die? Well, he screwed up. He completely disowned his familly and friends, and blindly followed a man to the point where he was being willfully ignorent of what was happening around him. Why did he do this? Well, because working with Fudge made him feel all important. Essentially, Percy put his own ego ahead of the safety of dozens of people, many of those close to him. Do you think that Percy would have followed Fudge and his ideals if Fudge wasn't in such a powerful position?

I'm not saying that he will die or even that he deserves to die. What I'm saying is, that given his previous actions, from a narrative point of view, it is quite possible for him to die. Because these books are familly-friendly, I feel that if Percy does die, it will be in a redemptive kind of way.

Just. My. Opinion.

OK Nightcrawler, I get what you're saying. Although I do believe that you're highlighting exactly the right thing for what your meant, but the point I was trying to get around was this:
I think that Percy has to die to redeem himself and so does Wormtail.
HAS is the point I'm focusing on. I am and was perfectly aware that it was your opinion, and was not attacking you or calling you stupid. I was calling the idea that someone had to die to redeem themselves stupid. Or at least wrong. Which one sounds better.................
On every other point to do with Percy that you've said, I agree with you 100%. But that's just my opinion someone else may not. (Oh that's disappointing...I can't find the smirk emoticon! .)

(In future avoid statign the obvious as you did numerous times when talking about "opinions." It sounds as though you're being patronising, even though you're doing it for the good of the thread. It's annoying.)

[Prof.M.McGonagall]

If a weasley dies, i think it'll be percy as he works for the ministry and would know information about his parents AND the ministry ....