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Postby thestral » Saturday 16 July 2005 7:41:06pm

wht did everyone think of the new MoM? he seemed a much more decisive and forceful presence than bumbling fudge. but then with his continued annoyance of harry, i didn't really like him.

but he did seem like a person to be respected whether or not you hated him or loved him. i don't know, i'm still undecided. overall i don't like him. but there's something there, a quality or something about him that i can't put my finger on that stops me from declaring outright condemnation or hatred.

what did everyone else think?
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Postby Tanuki » Saturday 16 July 2005 7:49:40pm

He's a military man, so he's going to have a way of doing things that is not very subtle. As it is, Harry has learned to distrust the MoM, so he's not going to like this guy anyway
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Postby thestral » Saturday 16 July 2005 8:43:13pm

yeah, maybe cos he was an auror you have a bit more respect for him. but you're right harry will never trust the minstry. there's too much water under the bridge there. but still, i think we have alot more to see of him yet. he won't be a push-over like fudge. i think this could be interesting...
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Postby Tanuki » Saturday 16 July 2005 9:01:16pm

I'm waiting to see what Harry does now that he dislikes the ministry so much. Will he still want to be an auror, or will he start his own faction with the money left to him, and the house? Of course that's assuming he lives. and if he does live, how will Scrumgeour react to Harry after he beat Voldy. Will he look at Harry as a threat, or will he simply let the boy be. Can the person who beat Voldermort be allowed to exist if he is not with the MoM, can he be trusted. These are thoughts that are likely to go through Scrumgeour's head i think
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Postby thestral » Saturday 16 July 2005 9:29:32pm

yeah, because one of the biggest problems i see about harry being an auror, is that he hates it so much. could he really blindly take orders from an organisation he scorns and hates?

maybe (if he lives) the DA will go beyond hogwarts and become an alternative to the auror route for those who want to fight wizards. the DA could be set up as much more with harry's money and inheritance of grimmauld place and assumably godric's hollow. i would love to see that. that and the ministry's reaction to it. that would be goooood. :grin:
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Postby pandora315 » Sunday 17 July 2005 1:22:09pm

When I first read the character description of Scrimgeour (sp?) I immediatly thought he was probably an animagus who trasforms into a lion. And then- this being a world of magic and all- I thought about a possibile connection with the Lion, the Witch, and the Wordrobe. But unfortuantly my memory is not that good and I read those books in gradeschool which was, embarassingly enough, ages ago so I can't remember what happens, only that the Lion dies and is reborn??? Seriously, correct me if I'm wrong because I really can't remember much. Which, (if thats even how that story goes) is quite similiar to the Phoenix tie in, being reborn from the ashes and all that. Of course it could refer to many things, like a wizard world rebuilding after the death of the life they know, or a rebuilding of muggles and wizards together, instead of (as I secretly hope) the rebirth of some of my old favorite characters like Sirius and DD.
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Postby thestral » Sunday 17 July 2005 2:30:02pm

i didn't take his physical appearance as signifying rebirth or anything. but i took it more as a indication of his character. what do you think of when you think of a lion? fierce, proud, territorial, wild, good fighters, male with an air or regaility or nobility. you wouldn't normally think of a lion giving up either would you? i think to me that scrimgeour has lion-like characteristics cos it's his personality rather than meaning DD and sirius will come back from the dead. i would love to think that too but i'ver come to accept that when someone dies in the HP books, they're dead.
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Postby Phoenix in the Ashes » Tuesday 19 July 2005 4:13:31am

I just don't think Harry's ever forgiven the Ministry for locking Sirius up without a trial.
Harry made a comparison with Barty Crouch in the book, and I've gotta say it's not a bad one.
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Postby Anna Black » Tuesday 19 July 2005 7:13:39am

Scrimgeour is a political man, that is why he wanted Harry to work with the ministry. It would have been a good thing, for him. It only made Harry despise the ministry even more though. He has never been treated well by the MoM. What happened to Sirius, the restrictions he's had to face, the MoM not believing him and publicly calling him a liar, Umbridge, did I say Umbridge. And now the Minister rudely repeats his offer just minutes after the funeral of Harry's father figure.

Harry doesn't like him, nor does he have a reason to. But, if I were a member of the wizarding community, I would definitely feel a little better about having him as my Minister rather than anyone like Fudge. He'll make a good minister, but not a friend of Harry's.
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Postby Stumpy » Tuesday 19 July 2005 3:47:28pm

I would have liked to have known more about the policies he had put in place, but as we only knew bout stan it did make me mistrust him.
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Postby Violet » Tuesday 19 July 2005 5:48:41pm

he seemed like a typical politician to me; ie keeping stan in just to show that it looked like the ministry was doing something and he wanted harry to stand up and make the ministry look good.
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Postby Lelie » Tuesday 19 July 2005 7:49:35pm

scrimgeour might seem better than fudge on the surface, but all that business with stan seems rather fudgy to me. i doubt anyone felt any better about the situation after stan shupike was arrested. that was all about political gain. fudge would do that. also, percy seems to like him too much. i don't trust people that percy likes anymore.
on the other hand, just because harry doesn't like him doesn't mean he wont be an effective MoM.
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Postby Anna Black » Wednesday 20 July 2005 7:49:10am

I'm not saying he should have locked up Stan, but he is at least taking an aggressive approach to LV, unlike Fudge. The people will never feel safe until LV is dead, but at least they may feel someone is taking everything seriously and that's what Scrimgeour's job is.

on the other hand, just because harry doesn't like him doesn't mean he wont be an effective MoM.


...exactly...

I don't like him as a person and neither will Harry ever, but he's doing his job at least which is more than I could have ever said for Fudge
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Postby Lone_Buck » Wednesday 20 July 2005 8:58:27pm

At first i liked him, when he first met the Prime Minister, but then he started to care to much about getting morale for the ministry, instead of stopping LV. If he really wanted morale, i would have liked to see more in the prophet about him hunting down deatheaters, or raiding there houses. Maybe he'll get killed off, and then Arthur Weasley could become minister. He'd have to make some huge steps forward to do it, he doesn't seem like a politician.
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Postby Fweegal » Thursday 21 July 2005 9:35:25am

He seems level headed and competent.

He used to head up the Aurors so he might cop on and help the OotP.
Is he in it, or was he ever in it?
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