Harry's Powers

Who do you like best and who could you definately live without? Will there be romance in the air for any of them and who will end up with who?

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Postby dibble2 » Wednesday 20 July 2005 4:29:42am

Dumbledore describes love in Order of the Phoenix as "Powerful and terrible". Terrible? That sounds pretty cool to me!
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Postby niki_192 » Wednesday 20 July 2005 5:19:48am

love shore saved harry a lot..... its like his protection but i dont see how it can be like a shield ?!?!?! :???:
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Postby Violet » Wednesday 20 July 2005 2:22:08pm

dibble2 wrote:I'm kind of sick of seeing Harry fight off Death Eaters with "Petrificus Totalus," considering Hermione knew that in her first year. Plus it's got to take so long to say. That and "Impedimentia," I think that if Harry was fighting a Death Eater face to face neither of those would go over too well. He needs to learn more spells like the stunning spells if he wants to stay alive.

the thing is when you're in a situation like that you would use things that you knew how to do well and that you were comfortable with. Harry isnt going to be concerning himself with how good he looks by the difficulty of spells he's doing, all he wants to do is stop the death eaters
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Postby Fweegal » Wednesday 20 July 2005 2:36:04pm

He did well enough against them in the Ministry. But I agree that he has been using Petrificus Totalus far too often.
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Postby Violet » Wednesday 20 July 2005 2:58:09pm

well if u say that then isnt it the same as the death eaters using the unforgivable curses all the time?
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Postby Fweegal » Wednesday 20 July 2005 3:00:18pm

Yeah...but the Unforgivables are a bit more adaptable. You can torture, kill or force someone to do something against their will.

No one ever said the Death Eaters were particularily accomplished magicians. A bunch of school kids beat them badly!!!
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Postby Augusta Longbottom » Wednesday 20 July 2005 10:37:10pm

I think the reason we see the students using spells like Petrificus Totalus and Impedimentia while the DE's use the unforgivable curses is because the books are essentially a war of good vs evil so JKR shows the side of good using something other than evil dark magic. I know I will be crushed in the end if HP defeats Voldie using Avada Kedavra...I am so hopeful that he won't have to succumb to dark magic to defeat him. I'm hopeful that something having to do with the love that saved him as a child will turn out to be what kills voldemort at the very end.
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Postby Froggs » Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:02:21pm

Gran Longbottom wrote:I think the reason we see the students using spells like Petrificus Totalus and Impedimentia while the DE's use the unforgivable curses is because the books are essentially a war of good vs evil so JKR shows the side of good using something other than evil dark magic. I know I will be crushed in the end if HP defeats Voldie using Avada Kedavra...I am so hopeful that he won't have to succumb to dark magic to defeat him. I'm hopeful that something having to do with the love that saved him as a child will turn out to be what kills voldemort at the very end.


I don't think HP will use unforgivable curses to defeat LV. It'll be something like, he sacrafices himself and in so doing he evokes that ancient magic that is so often alluded to.
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Postby dibble2 » Thursday 21 July 2005 4:55:58am

My problem with petrificus totalus isn't that he uses it too much, it's that he learned it his first year and all the Death Eaters seem to be stumped on how to beat it. Granted, most of the time he caught them by surprise or they weren't looking. Anyway, I think Snape proved that Harry's going to need to look into some more advanced dueling tactics.
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Postby Fweegal » Thursday 21 July 2005 9:28:13am

DEs should take lessons from Snape. He deflected everything Harry threw at him.

I still think there's no evidence that the DEs are remotely talented as a bunch. Just because they support LV....I mean Crabbe and Goyle are Draco's fanbase!!!
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Postby Froggs » Thursday 21 July 2005 4:53:54pm

Fweegal wrote:DEs should take lessons from Snape. He deflected everything Harry threw at him.

I still think there's no evidence that the DEs are remotely talented as a bunch. Just because they support LV....I mean Crabbe and Goyle are Draco's fanbase!!!


I get the feeling that LV only allows a few powerful wizards into his group. Most of them mindlessly do what they are told to do. The Crabbe, Goyle, Malfoy comparison is dead on.
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Postby thestral » Friday 22 July 2005 9:30:11pm

harry's power is sort of unrefined but the huge potential is there. the spells he does have such strong magical ability behind them, but he just needs to learn some new more advanced and complex curses and duelling methods like silent spell casting if he's gonna suceed.

like when snape threw that curse at him in DADA class and harry's shield threw him over desks it was so powerful, although it wasn't silent. but there's such potential there.
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Postby Lelie » Friday 22 July 2005 10:05:28pm

i imagine one of the reasons that the DE's are overtaken by simple spells is because they can't be bothered to deflect them like snape did. key difference between the usual DE's and snape: snape wasn't busy trying to curse harry back. he had time to think about shielding since he wasn't casting offensive spells.
i remain convinced that harry is a truly powerful wizard. thestral... you took the words out of my mouth with the bit about the sheild charm in dada. if harry could control his emotions, he would overpower most wizards.
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Postby thestral » Friday 22 July 2005 11:21:09pm

the one thing that bothers me is that harry never learnt occlumency. and that's soooo important. he needs that control. but i don't think he'll ever be good at oclumency because his emotions are too close to the surface. thats just the way he is. the 'sensitive' hero and that's why the whole love this is so important. if he shut down his emotions the way you're supposed to in occlumency, i think he would lose half his power, cos his emotions and passion are his power.

now if he would get off his butt and do some work, ho would be able to harness that power....
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Postby Froggs » Friday 22 July 2005 11:34:47pm

I'm not sure this warrents a new thread, but did anyone notice that Trelawany had accurate card reading skills in this book? She even notices Harry, after a fashion, when he is using the invisibility cloak on his first trip to DD's office.
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