Boggarts

[Mrs. Luca Black]

I disagree, Tanuki. I think the Lucius is abusive. I don't think he's ever hit Draco (besides maybe a spanking or something, but even that I doubt, wouldn't want to bruise his palm...) or Narcissa. I see him as being verbally abusive. Always expecting the absolute best and if he's disappointed then just giving Draco hell. (Ahem, his course tongue towards Draco in Borgin and Burkes in CoS.)

He does spoil Draco, there's no denying that, but that doesn't mean that he isn't abusive. He'd need to have encite a certain amount of fear in Draco for Draco to be so loyal and reliant. Fear beyond just fearing disappointed daddy, but fear of what he'd do if he were disappointed.

[Un'Anima Persa]

i think that maybe he is abusive. Really, the spoiling could be covering up for the abuse and it could be(in addition to the evilness of his family) what is causing him to hurt others.

i think it is verbal abuse, though, like luca.

If he does hit/curse/etc him it isnt often, or at least it doesnt seem that way.

or maybe he does, but erases any visual form of evidence, and is sure draco wont spill the beans by threatening him over and over. This could make draco fear his father beyond anyone.

[Mrs. Luca Black]

Yes, but that kind of abuse might breed resentment. And there is certainly no resentment there.

I have some evidence for this, but I can't post it because of the spoiler policy. So, erm, yeah. This is sort of pointless without evidence, but if you really want to get into it, pm me for the evidence?

[glamourweaver]

Draco seems to me to exemplify the kind of twisted loyalty to an emotionally abusive parent that so often arises in those who are controlled & degraded from early childhood. In his mind, the awe & terror he feels towards his father is "love". Whether or not Lucius is physically abusive, I have no idea, but he is most certainly emotionally abusive.

[Ginny Potter]

Yes, but that kind of abuse might breed resentment. And there is certainly no resentment there.

I have some evidence for this, but I can't post it because of the spoiler policy. So, erm, yeah. This is sort of pointless without evidence, but if you really want to get into it, pm me for the evidence?

Perhaps this thread could be moved to a HBP area? It would be nice to be able to reference that book, like Luca said, to talk about things on this thread. I'd also like to expound on boggarts relating to incidents and characters in book 6, too...

[Nightcrawler]

There's already a topic in the HBP section discussing Draco Malfoy, you could always bring up this issue on that thread if you wanted.

Personally, I don't think Lucious Malfoy is physiclly abusive. I think that he would consider losing ones temper to be beneath him. I doubt Narcissa would put up with physical abuse.

I think that his biggest flaw (as a father) is that his family has always come second. When Voldermort first reigned, his number one priority was serving Voldermort. When Voldermort was killed, his number one priority was builing power and influence over people and organizations. When Voldermort returned; once again, he busied himself with serving Voldermort.

Draco must have felt that he disapointed Lucius, and did everything he could to "make his father proud", but I suspect that it was never enough to please the man.

[Tanuki]

I know the topic is pretty much done, but I have one thing to contribute on the subject. Children work their hardest, not on physically or verbally abusive parents, but on the absent or cold parent. They want to recieve their approval, or some sort of appreciation, and will do anything tio get it.

[Harryisahottie24]

I think that Snape sees his love when he looks at a boggart because I really don't see how Snape can be born that evil.

[Snow_Crystal]

A lot of people seem to think that LV's Boggart would be death or something from his past, it's curious that no-one thinks it's Harry defeating him..

[Mistress Siana]

Well, I think that Harry defeating him and death is pretty much the same, isn't it? Death is just the more general idea, it includes defeat by Harry as well as slipping in the shower and breaking his neck. (Imagine that!)

On Lucius, I'd agree with Tanuki, I think he's cold rather than abusive, but most of all, he has incredible high expectations that are hard to meat. And personally, I think that a disapproving fathzer can be a boggart as devastating as any other, much more, I think, than a clown or a spider.