Troll in the dungeon!

[littlelib]

What if Harry and Ron hadnt saved Hermione from the Troll?? Would she have managed to escape or would she have died?? And if she had died would Harry have been able to defeat Quirrel/Voldemort without her help?

[__penguin__]

wow, what would they do without hermione? i don't think they could have done half the stuff they did if she wasnt there...

[zledm007]

yeah, that's true. if you think about it, hermy is pretty musch the brains of the trio. who knows if harry would even be alive still! and you know, i don't think harry would've even made it to quirrell/voldemaort w/out hermione. i don't remember for sure but wasn't there some kind of logic thing blocking the way to the philosepher/sorceror's stone? if i remember correctly, hermione got past that one because wizards are really bad at logic kinda stuff and she's half muggle or whatever. and you know, they left that part out of the movie, i was sad. but any way, wow, that woulda been really bad.

[AccioNiffler]

If it wasnt for Hermione, Harry probably would be dead, or flunked out of school, or both! But we all know that nothing too serious would ever happen to her, because it would break up the trio. Harry's the hero, Ron's the funny, "doesnt always think things through" one, and Hermione is the brains behind the operation. What a perfect combination!

[Blaise Zabini]

I agree that the two would be stuck without a lot of the brainpower that Hermioen provides them with. But that said, I'm sure they would have found a way to adapt. I mean, at the time they encountered the troll, neither harry nor Ron were to fond of Hermione, so difficult as it is to dsay now, she wouldn't have been missed had she made such a swift exit. But again, without her and her intelligence, Harry would never have made it past the logic section in PS, never would have made it into the Slytherin dungeons in CS, and been stuck without help in many other situations!

Oh, and this is a really interesting section of the forum!

[zledm007]

thanks, i thought it would be. you're right, i had forgotten how *ehem* unfond harry and ron had been of hermione. they probobly would've gotten along, but it would've changed the plot of the story drastically. and thoughts on how the plot would've changed? what would've happened instead of getting the Philosipher/Sorcerer's stone and finding the Chanber of secrets, oh and using the time turner to help sirius in PoA? what else would've happened?

[Blaise Zabini]

Well, though Hermione wouldn't have been there, I'm sure that Harry and Ron would have a found a way to adapt to her abscence. I mean, with her around, the two often cut corners on their homework and usually take the lazy way out and not research whatever mission they're embarking on next. If she were to have died in PS, then the two would've had to pick up that slack and would probably have become just as smart as her. Did that make sense?

And as for not having the TT in PoA, I can't really se a way around that one. Suffice it to say that Sirius and Bickbeak probably wouldn't have made it. Unless DD stepped in and provided a TT of his own, but I can't see him doing something like that.

[Gwared]

Hermione is central to the success of Harry throughout the series. Without her he would have been killed by the plant in PS, the logic puzle in PS (or would have been trapped until DD arrived, but then who would have taken Ron to the infirmary?). Sirius and Buckbeak would be dead in PoA, as well as the homework burdens that Hermione has relieved them of. There's probably numerous others but as PS and PoA were the books I read last week they're the freshest in my memory.

Plus she's also my favorite character so they couldn't have killed her off!

[zledm007]

fourtunatelly for you gwared, they didn't. i would hate to see what kind of an emotional state you'd be in if she had been killed.

[Gwared]

fourtunatelly for you gwared, they didn't. i would hate to see what kind of an emotional state you'd be in if she had been killed.

Well I would've had 4 other books to get over her by now. But still I'd have to chose a new favorite character .

[han lin]

ahh i can't imagine it without hermione now but if she had died in PS then i'd be well over it. i wouldn't even remember her all that well. if it hadn'tbeen Hermione i think it would have been someone with a very simelar character. there has to be someone to complete the trio.

[Ju-DedoH]

fra sirius also wondered if she could have got rid of the troll herself, and I believe she could have, by using some weak spot she would have read about or using a simple spell on an object to make it become somehow extremely useful in her situation

[Mint]

i doubt that Hermone would survive by herself - she was so freaked out (was in panic) of that troll she couldn't think.

Do you guys think that Hermone is so organized even in danger, because she cares so much for Harry adn Ron, and forgets about her own life - just trying to think of smth to save them.

[Ju-DedoH]

yeah maybe, but since i've lost my philosophers stone, i can't exactly remeber everything in detail

[Meg Boyd]

without Hermione, the story ends on Halloween of the first year. LV takes over and Harry dies right away, and darkness rules the earth. Hermione is key to the successes of Harry and Ron and Co. What is even more, even if Hermione had not died at the hand of the troll and had escaped by herself, the bond between the boys and hermione would not be there. With out the bond, Harry and Ron would not be friends with Hermione, therefore making her still absent from the story. Meaning, the act of the Boys saving Hermione in the bathroom is almost like a blood brother bond, they are stuck together forever...till death do them part...to save the world from evil...a three legged stool cannot stand on two.