Voldemort's Wand

[Imelyen]

I'm not 100% certain if this has been covered yet or not, but if it has i'm sure this post will be deleted, but anyway....

As I was talking to my brother about the Horcruxes (for quite possibly the 10000th time) I became determined to prove that the final Horcrux was neither Harry or that stupid Snake. So as I was re-reading the books, a thought occured to me; Why not Voldemort's Wand?

Point 1.) In book 1 Hagrid states that the Potter house was in ruin (which from later books i feel it is safe to assume that the destruction was caused by the backfired curse). As the curse destroyed the house one would think that the wand being at point blank range would have been destroyed too, which, of course, we know is not the case.

Point 2.) Throughout the series JKR has destroyed a few wands, and after the destruction of each, the wielders life changes (Hagrid got kicked out of school, Ron became a more prominent(s) character, Umbridge, well, she went crazy)

Point 3.) Voldemort supposedly chose his Horcruxes because of the relevence to Himself as well as the Four Founding Wizards of Hogwarts. JKR has only told us what 5 of the horcruxes are.

Obviously the Horcruxes aren't normal magical items and consequently would need to be destroyed in a more specific manner rather than just a big release of power (sorry, but i dont think you can just walk up and zap a horcrux into nothingness, and I'm sure anyone who has played D&D would agree with me). So a major release of power, like the backfire of an AV curse, would be more than enough to destroy a mere house, but not good enough to destroy a horcrux, thus explaining how Voldemort's wand escaped the destruction unscathed.

If Voldemort's wand is destroyed, his subsequent death is in line with JKR's current trend (what bigger change in one's life is there?). And lastly his own wand would be the most protected horcrux out there. It would be constantly guarded, and it would mean the person trying to destroy Voldemort would HAVE to meet him in a duel of some sort.

That's my theory on the final Horcrux, and I'm sticking to it! (as I'm half-asleep atm I'm sure i'm going to be doing some serious editing)

[carsten]

...And lastly his own wand would be the most protected horcrux out there. It would be constantly guarded, and it would mean the person trying to destroy Voldemort would HAVE to meet him in a duel of some sort....

Excellent point! You show the qualities of a writer! I wish I had ideas that good while being half asleep.

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

Whatever it is, I agree with you not wanting to snake to be a horcrux. I think it would be a bit of a let-down, actually.

There're some theories for so many different things though... even Hogwarts itself which is interesting.

Then there's the real question of:

If Voldemort wanted true immortality, but after rising again would settle for just being the most powerful person alive... what would he use as his seventh horcrux?

What could possibly be something that would finally put beyond all doubt his ultimate power in the world forever?

I... just don't think he'd use his wand.

Wands can be broken.

Plus if they disarmed him... [that's one horcrux gone.]

And then killed him... [that's two horcruxes gone, in a matter of minutes.]

But... I don't think it'll go like that.

I'm still a fan of Voldemort being pushed through the veil.

[Imelyen]

Plus if they disarmed him... [that's one horcrux gone.]

And then killed him... [that's two horcruxes gone, in a matter of minutes.]

Because that's been a snap so far....

My thoughts are, Harry will destroy the other Horcruxes and then it will come down to the Priori Incantatem(s) again, which will ultimately destroy Voldemorts wand, since I really don't see Harry being able to even come CLOSE to beating Voldemort.

[Mistress Siana]

Redemption for Voldemort! Why, I am making a fool of myself, huh?

Anyway (though Hogwarts is still my No 1 theory), I've been thinking about his wand, too. I tend to believe Dumbledore about no object of Gryffindor's being left. So the question is: What would be an adequate substitute? Apart from Hogwarts, I think that Voldemort does have an obsession with Dumbledore, who appears to be the epitome of the noble Gryffindor, and who is supposed to be the only one LV ever feared. I think that an onject related to DD would appeal to LV, to kind of show his triumph over his old enemy by turning something related to him into a Horcrux. Seeing that it contains one of Fawkes' feathers, his wand would be that connection. Actually, I've always wondered about the fact that it's Fawkes whose feathers are in both Harry's and Voldemort's wands. That has to be of significance, I think.

But there's also another point that speaks against it: Dumbledore noticed the habit of Voldemort's to get rid of an obeject immediately after turning it into a Horcrux, which is part of the reason why I, too, believe DD's wrong as far as Nagini is concerned.

[carsten]

...Anyway (though Hogwarts is still my No 1 theory), ...

The total of Hogwarts would be a little bit too much, but we learned about LV's visit to DD. Maybe LV slipped a horcrux into Griffindor's sword or something else in DD's office, which holds even more treasures. Maybe that was the secret reason for the visit? I have no clue how long it takes for a capable wizard to plant a horcrux.

[Imelyen]

I would think that since it involves splitting one's soul, it would be sort of like a ritual, similar to Voldemort's rebirth "party". As far as it being Hogwarts, I doubt it. Hogwarts is supposed to be extremely well protected vs pretty much everything. So i would think making it a Horcrux would be virtually impossible.

[Mistress Siana]

I'm sure that the founders would not have thought about protecting Hogwarts against somebody binding his soul to it...but there's another thread for discussing that idea. Anything else on Voldemort's wand?

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

Plus if they disarmed him... [that's one horcrux gone.]

And then killed him... [that's two horcruxes gone, in a matter of minutes.]

Because that's been a snap so far....

Yes.

Exactly.

I think having his wand as a horcrux would be much more of a snap than having it somewhere else.

Comparatively speaking, I think it would be a snap.

[Chimera]

I would think that since it involves splitting one's soul, it would be sort of like a ritual, similar to Voldemort's rebirth "party".

But if you recall, we were told that killing splits the soul. The ritual would be about housing a piece of soul that has already been detached from the whole.

[carsten]

But if you recall, we were told that killing splits the soul. The ritual would be about housing a piece of soul that has already been detached from the whole.

Oops, that adds another level of complexity: Do you need to have the person to kill and the gadget to store the horcrux in at hand, at the same time? Or could LV use some temp space for the horcrux right after the killing and relocate it afterwards to its final destination?

I am confused!

Are these horcruxes generated each time a person kills someone? I assume, that some extra effort is necessary for that. Otherwise LV's parts would be somewhat scattered!

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

But if you recall, we were told that killing splits the soul. The ritual would be about housing a piece of soul that has already been detached from the whole.

Hmm.

So in that case surely the actual process of murder itself who split the soul?
So a mass murderer could theoretically have... 20? But in his body still?

Hmm.

[Chimera]

Yeah, the pieces would be in the body until such time as you put them elsewhere.

[Aberforth]

But if you recall, we were told that killing splits the soul. The ritual would be about housing a piece of soul that has already been detached from the whole.

Hmm.

So in that case surely the actual process of murder itself who split the soul?
So a mass murderer could theoretically have... 20? But in his body still?

Hmm.

I don't think it works like that. i think that you have to have the intention of forming the horcrux before committing the murder and it is the act of murder that is the catalyst for splitting the soul. Simply carrying out the murder in my opinion would not do this.