Salazar and Godric, Friends?

[Un'Anima Persa]

Well, I was looking at another thread in theis forum, dealing with colors. And I realized that silver is associated closely with gold, and in christian faith, so are green and red (christmas among other things...)

so i was wondering if maybe Salazar (creator of Slytherin) and Godric (creator of Gryffindor) wer once friends. and maybe that friendship (if it ever existed) was destroyed by a tragedy, or if the houses were never meant to be rivals, and maybe salazar was forced to turn against godric by some sort of threat... any opinions out there?

[Un'Anima Persa]

sorry this wasn't in first post, but if someone can merge the two that would be great!

Maybe this ties in with Godric's Hollow. it has a creepy sounding name...

[Nightcrawler]

From what I can remember, all four founders of Hogwarts were friends, including Godric and Salazar. When the school first began, each of the four headmaters would personally choose the students that they wanted in thier houses. I'm sure the Ravenclaw guy was an intelectuall, so he probably preffered to choose the smarter kids. Godric Gryfindor admired bravery, so he chose the bravest students to be in his house. And so on.

At some point, Salazar had a disagreement with the other three wizards because he felt that Hogwarts should only accept pureblood wizards.

Later on, the four wizards accepted that they would someday die, and they realized that somebody else would have to sort the student's into houses because they would no longer be around. So Godric Gryfindor put a spell on his hat to make it intelligent. This is what the sorting hat is. Then the four wizards were able to choose what traits they wanted in thier houses, and the hat would then choose whichever house that would best suit the personality of the student.

Godric put his sword in the hat and presumably, the other wizards probably put items in the hat too.


I don't really think that Salazar was a bad guy, just that he had old fashioned beliefs and felt that Hogwarts would be more efficient with only pureblood students. Godric and Salazar may have even been quite close, but this idea was obviously quite important to Salazar, and when Godric disagreed with it, their friendship probably started to weaken and Salazar probably started to become more and more isolated.

While it was not originally intended for Gryfindor and Slytherin to compete, that was what ended up happening anyway.

In the fifth book (I think) the Sorting Hat sings a song that explains (to a degree) what happened. I feel like re-reading that part now

[Tanuki]

The reason that Slytherin chose purebloods is because of the immense prejudice by muggles at the time. It was the middle ages then I believe (witch burnings much?) So Slythering only wanted to train purebloods who were less of a risk to the established wizarding community

Also, somewhere in the books someone mentions the fact that never was a friendship greater than Slytherin and Gryphindor

[Mistress Siana]

Yep, it was. It was said in the Sorting Hat's new song in book 5 that there had never been a greater friendship than that of Gryffindor and Slytherin. Their friendship broke because of their different believes. I actually think that the relationship of those two is one of the most interesting details of the book, considering the consequences it still has today. I'd really love to hear more about it, but unless the HBP is Godric Gryffindor or something, I don't think there'll be more.

[Hagger 9003]

hmmmmm ... JK did say that we would have all the back story we need by the end of the books, so im hopeful. i think it might be important, but im not sure how. the break up between them caused the CoS to exist, and the death of at least one person (moaning myrtle). once, i though about LV doing something with salazaar, maybe resurrecting him, and salazaar rejecting LV, but im not so sure now. would be interesting, but LV doesnt need him, and he couldnt get to him anyway.

[Mistress Siana]

That would make an interesting story. You don't write fanfiction, do you?

HBP was said to cantain a lot of backstory, wasn't it? I'm really looking forward to it.

[Hagger 9003]

hmmmmm... ive thought about fanfiction, and i actually tried to write something about the founders. it is just so hard for me to keep my attention on it. i want to do it tho, so i will try again

backstory is always interesting. it tells you so much about the characters that you didn't kno, and makes you look at what is happening in a different way. knowing all about LV, and how he killed the potters would be very interesting.

[Tween_Luv]

yeah, i've tried to write fan fics, but, mine weren't to good. and i would love to know more about the founders and about James and lily!!
Anyway, dind't the sorting hat say something along the lines of "and no greater friends there were then than Slytherin and Gryffendor" or something like that?

[Hagger 9003]

yeh, it did. but what confuses me is what happened to drive them apart? i would have been really upset if two of my friends were driven apart because of old traditions. it must have been really confused inside that staff room.

[Tanuki]

I'm guessing it was the whole "pure blood" thing. Something like this can change people's relationships a lot

[Tween_Luv]

yeah, it probably was the pureblood thing. the book said that gryffendor wanted students that did not have to be pure blood, and slytherin needed only pureblood students (or something like that) and that they basically just drew apart. oh, the book said something about a quarrel as well..but, i'm not sure about that. i dont have the books with me at the moment.

[niki_192]

hmmmmmmmm........
j.k keeps putting things together that are like undetectable.......

[Fantasy girl]

i have read some off line ff, and in it even when James was getting his stuff, he disliked snape, but maybe in the end G and S will somehow develope a friendship.

[Asphodel]

Well when you look at their qualities:

Slytherin Gryffindor
Cunning Brave
loyal

Smart