Profession of Lily and James

Which one is your favorite so far. Are they getting even better as the characters develop over time?

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Postby Alice I » Saturday 26 June 2004 2:25:51am

I do not think that a weak wizard could become Head Boy.
To be HB or HG for that matter you have to to top of your class in all subjects and a weak wizard or witch would not be able to accomplish this.
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Postby ganymede » Sunday 27 June 2004 11:59:48am

aurors, i would think...it seems the most likelist after book 5
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Postby Alice I » Sunday 27 June 2004 9:00:10pm

ganymede wrote:aurors, i would think...it seems the most likelist after book 5

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Postby Nobby » Monday 28 June 2004 11:43:24am

i think we need to try and make a list of all known jobs in the wizarding community, then we could decide which jobs would need a particulary strong witch or wizard to perform the job. We might stumble across James' profession this way!!!

I can't see JK giving the Potters a profession that we haven't already heard of!!!
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Postby Athena Appleton » Tuesday 29 June 2004 3:40:26pm

oy...

Off the top of my head:

Homemaker (Molly)
Auror
Performer (Celestina Warbeck, Weird Sisters)
Teacher
Shopkeeper
Treasure hunter (Bill)
Whatever job non-goblin Gringott's workers can get at a desk (Bill and Fleur)
Healer
Someone who works with Dragons (Charlie)
Untouchable
Working in the Ministry: Note: each of these have several different layers of Minister, undersecretary, assistants and workers of each department
Minister of Magic
Security
Dept. of Magical Games and Sports (British & Irish Quidditch, Gobstones and Ludicrous Patents Office)
Department of Magical Transport (Floo Network Authority, Broom Regulatory Control, Portkey Office and Apparation Test Center)
Department of International Magical Cooperation (Intntl. Magical Office of Law, Intntl. Magical Trading Standards Body, Intl. Confederation of Wizards)
Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures (Beast, Being and Spirit Divisions; Goblin Liaison Office, Pest Advisory Bureau)
Department of Magical Accidents and Catastrophes (Accidental Magic Reversal Squad, Obliviator Headquarters, Muggle-Worthy Excuse Committee)
Department of Magical Law Enforcement (Improper Use of Magic Office, Auror Headquarters, Wizengamot Administration Services)

Magical Maintenance
Professional Quidditch Player
Monster fighter/adventurer (what the wizarding world believed Lockheart to be)
Barkeep/Restaraunt/Motel Owner
Thief/Crook
Author
Security Troll Trainer

Not to mention the many many jobs out there that are very similar to Muggle jobs, such as people to make those magical tents, probably door-to-door salespeople, etc.
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Postby Nightcrawler » Tuesday 29 June 2004 5:22:13pm

LOL, I don't think that a theif is considered an occupation... and if Harry's parents came across that large sum of money through theivery.... that would completly throw things out of whack for poor Harry.

Anyhow, we know that they did something that ticked Voldermort right off. Maybe they were the ones who decided to sell hotdogs in packs of eight, whilst selling hotdog buns in packs of ten. Once again, we must ask ourselves who the real villians are :evil: .


Perhaps James taught DADA, I've got a hunch that there is more to that job than we are led to believe. Voldermort wouldn't want someone of the next generation to overthrow him, so I'm sure he wasn't real freindly towards DADA teachers. This would also reflect the resentment Snape has for James.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Tuesday 29 June 2004 5:37:38pm

Nightcrawler wrote:LOL, I don't think that a theif is considered an occupation...


Hey, it's the only thing we know that Mundungus does... :grin:

Anyhow, we know that they did something that ticked Voldermort right off.


I think the fact that they were trying to keep Voldemort from getting into power would have ticked him off enough... however, I don't know that I think James and Lily did anything that led to their being hunted by Voldemort besides having a child that fit the description of the child in the prophesy that Voldemort heard. If James and Lily hadn't fought Voldemort three times, or if they had had Harry in June or August instead of late July, then they wouldn't have been in any more danger than any other member of the Order.

Perhaps James taught DADA, I've got a hunch that there is more to that job than we are led to believe. Voldermort wouldn't want someone of the next generation to overthrow him, so I'm sure he wasn't real freindly towards DADA teachers. This would also reflect the resentment Snape has for James.


I really don't think James taught DADA... I mean, I suppose he could have, but once again, I think it's one of those things that Harry would have heard about ("You're so talented in DADA... just like your father... he used to teach it, you know...")... Also, while I agree with you that there's more to this profession than meets the eye, I don't think there's a hint anywhere that James taught it.
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Postby Nobby » Wednesday 30 June 2004 1:33:22pm

that's not a bad list off the top of your head athena!!!!

...as for James being DADA teacher.....although not impossible i see it to be highly unlikely.....like athena said somebody would have told him by now.....a piece of info like this wouldn't have evaded hermione for so long
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Postby Athena Appleton » Wednesday 30 June 2004 4:36:26pm

Nobby wrote:that's not a bad list off the top of your head athena!!!!


:lol: thanks! well, okay, about half of it was off the top of my head... the other was after I got started I wanted to complete it, so I did a little digging. :grin:

Like I said, though, that list is so incomplete because there are SO many jobs that are obviously there in the wizarding world that are very similar to jobs we have, but you just can't name them all... those were only the ones that we know for sure are there and we know characters who have those jobs.
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Postby TDM » Thursday 1 July 2004 4:01:13am

[quote="Athena Appleton"]then again, you must remember that we don't know what color underwear Hermione likes to wear, so it's probably going to play into the story in one of the later books... :lol:quote]

hey, i'm sure many a guy like myself wonders that occasionally. heh, you may laugh, but i'm dead serious. lol, i'm laughing too, but i'm serious about it. anyway, not the topic. just thought i'd let you guys into my mind for a moment...scary, huh? and i have to live there!

anyway, i wouldn't put it past James to be an Unspeakable. however, then he'd know of the prophecy, which would be odd, since it was referring to his unborn child.

neither of them could've been fake death eaters because Hagrid said that LV never tried to bring them over because of the fact that he knew they were close to Dumbledore.

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Postby Athena Appleton » Thursday 1 July 2004 1:31:37pm

First about the underwear... whatever gets you through the day, dude... :eek:

:lol:

About James and the prophesy: well, first, isn't is possible that Unspeakables don't have access to each and every part of the Department of Mysteries? I mean, what if his job involved what's in another room other than the prophesies?

I also think that James and Lily (and probably the Longbottoms) knew about the prophesy. I believe that Dumbledore would have informed them of it, so that they could keep extra care over baby Harry. Just a hunch on my part, but I do think they knew the details of why Voldemort was after them specifically.
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Postby TDM » Thursday 1 July 2004 3:52:32pm

lol, Athena, you brought it up. but, i couldn't resist posting that. knew it'd give someone giggles. actually, i'd never thought about it before you posted it here. and then i got wondering...

lol, anyway, good point about how they knew voldy was after them. maybe james was an Unspeakable. however, i think the whole theory of Lily being like Snape and infiltrating the circle of Death Eaters is pretty much busted.

well, i don't think Lily would sit home and be a homemaker, simply because they only had Harry for three months before they died (born on July 31, and they were killed on Halloween). so, my guess is that she mainly helped with the OotP, but not being a job, we're back to square one.
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Postby Athena Appleton » Thursday 1 July 2004 6:59:24pm

well, i don't think Lily would sit home and be a homemaker, simply because they only had Harry for three months before they died (born on July 31, and they were killed on Halloween). so, my guess is that she mainly helped with the OotP, but not being a job, we're back to square one.


Nope, he was a year and three months old (he was born July 31, but was a year old when Voldemort killed his parents... also, Dudley and Harry are the same age, with perhaps a month between them, and the day all the strange stuff was going on, the day after Harry's parents died, Dudley was learning new words and throwing temper tantrums).

If I'm right about the Potters knowing about the prophesy, and knowing Voldemort was after Harry, then I think I'm right in saying that at least in that period of time (from the time Harry was born until he was a year and three months old) Lily, at least, stayed at home with him.

Speaking as a mother, if I knew that someone was after my child, I wouldn't let him out of my sight, even with the closest of kin (husband and grandparents included).
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Postby TDM » Thursday 1 July 2004 8:32:09pm

lol, it's actually funny, but i realized that i was wrong, just as i came to BaO today, before checking the thread. lol, i completely forgot about that. anyway, i wouldn't doubt if his parents knew about the prophecy now. since it was conveyed to dumbledore, i would assume he'd pass it on to all that it applied to. anyway, now, i guess she could be a homemaker, but i still doubt it. my vote still goes for it being some related to the actual Order.
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Postby Alice I » Thursday 1 July 2004 8:35:19pm

There is a problem with this whole James knowing the prophacy thing.

True the prophacy was made before Harry was born but his name was not put on it until after the night that Voldemort killed James and Lilly because the prophacy could have been about either Neville or Harry.

Dumbledore said something to that effect at the end of OOTP when He was telling Harry the truth about everything.

It is possible that both the Potters and the Longbottoms knew the verbiage of the prophacy for I believe that Dumbledore would have told both sets of parents for the thing was obviously about one of the boys being born at the end of July but no one knew who it was actually about until the attack.
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