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Postby Fweegal » Saturday 23 July 2005 10:54:55am

I can't see Fawkes being something as evil as a Horcrux.
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Postby thestral » Saturday 23 July 2005 2:53:12pm

no either can i, fawkes is the force of good, rebirth of hope from the ashes and all that stuff. there is no way fawkes has anything evil in him. also he's too magically powerful to be a tool of LV.
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Postby Fweegal » Saturday 23 July 2005 5:50:55pm

""It was a large and beautiful circular room, full of funny little noises. A number of curious silver instruments stood on spindle-legged tables, whirring and emitting little puffs of smoke. The walls were covered with portraits of old headmasters and headmistresses, all of whom were snoozing gently in their frames. There was also an enormous, claw-footed desk"....

A Ravenclawed desk.....?
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Postby selene » Saturday 23 July 2005 6:43:50pm

that's interesting
since dd believes the only relic of godric gryffindoor (the sword) can't be a horcrux it's probably gonna be something of ravenclaw

but then again, how did lv get his hands on the desk and what is it doing in dds office? without him knowing? :???:
didn't dd say that magic leaves traces and that he knows lv style?
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Postby Dutchess42 » Wednesday 27 July 2005 9:10:43pm

Rowling says in an interview on mugglenet:

"JKR: Well, I'm prepared to bet you now, that at least before the week is out, at least one of the Horcruxes will have been correctly identified by careful re-readers of the books."

Now THERE'S a challenge for sure.

http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview3.shtml
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Postby Broccoli » Thursday 28 July 2005 2:21:49pm

As I was reading the book I thought that the Room of Requirement where people hide things can be a place to look. Other ideas: Godric's Hollow, Harry himself.
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Postby Dacre » Thursday 28 July 2005 5:50:32pm

It won't be the sword (which was hidden in the sorting hat until Harry retrieved it in the 2nd book)
I think the one already mentioned was the strange box in Sirius's house that no-one could open. (Stolen by Regis (Initials - R?B??)
I suspect it'll be Harry who's the last one (why he's a parsel mouth shared VL powers etc), who'll realise he'll have to sacrifice himself to stop LV.
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Postby Mistress Siana » Thursday 28 July 2005 6:56:27pm

Hm, that quote is interesting...So it must be in HBP, and most likely mentioned in passing. I've started to 'carefully re-read' the book and found this:

In chapter 2, Bellatrix says this: "The Dark Lord has, in the past, entrusted me with his most precious -" and then she stops. Isn't most precious a strange thing to say? What could she mean, for I wouldn't call plans, information or missions 'precious'. Apart from that, Bella and her group of followers were the only ones to be completely sure Voldemort was immortal. Of course you would blame that on her insanity, but maybe that was just what JKR wanted us to believe? Can Bellatrix be, or more likely, have another Horcrux? What else would be the Dark Lord's 'most precious'? I can't imagine Voldemort being so trusting, not even his most loyal servant, but her words in combination with JKR's comment make me wonder.
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Postby Dutchess42 » Thursday 28 July 2005 10:29:46pm

She says readers of the books - plural. So it need not be in HBP. (I think)

But that's a good call on Bellatrix. Could be.
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Postby annachie » Friday 29 July 2005 9:33:57am

Brocoli (I think it was) made the point that if you plan to be immortal by making horcrux's, why place one in a mortal being. Actually, that's a fairly good point which I'm partially ignoring.

What if LV intended to make Harry's death the splitter for the last horcrux. We know he chose object and deaths that were significant to him, and it appears hiding places for them that are significant too (making those little memory vignette's of LV's life doubly important). Perhaps then, Cedric's death, being the first one after his return to full power was the one he chose to use after the failure of the attempt on Harry. That would need him to make/empower a new horcrux (#7 I suppose). Enter Peter Pettigrew. Or at least his new hand. What better reward for bringing his master back to life than to be the holder of part of his soul or so LV might think.

Also by this time in GoF he might have heard about the diary being destroyed (via the lost ministry person whose name escapes me) and realise that he actually needs two horcrux's to get to his perfect seven. (The one lost and the one he failed to make). Just a theory.
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Postby annachie » Friday 29 July 2005 9:51:20am

Actually, if he did plan to use Harry's death then the object he intended to use would have been at the Potter house, and indeed may still be there. Horcruxed or not.

Wonder if a horcrux is enchanted before hand and then used to suck a piece of soul in, or if it's based on a spell you would have to use.
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Postby glamourweaver » Friday 29 July 2005 11:13:07am

I strongly agree with the theory that Harry himself is the last Horcrux. He's got a mental link to Voldemort similar to Nagini. He's got something of Voldemort's within him (giving him Parsel-Tongue). He was altered by Voldemort following two brutal murders. etc. etc. Voldemort didn't intend to make Harry a Horcrux I believe, but he did so accidentally when the Killing Curse backfired. This might be why he's forbidden his minions from killing Harry or seriously harming him... (see "Flight of the Prince" neer the end of HBP).


I do think the locket that non-chelauntly got passed over in Order of the Pheonix was likely Slytherin's Locket, as R.A.B. was likely Regulus Black. There are 2 possible fates for it. Either Kreecher nicked it for "safe-keeping", or Mundungus stole & sold it. The latter would be very interesting as it might mean that Harry & the others will have to break Mundungus out of Azkaban in Book 7.
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Postby Dutchess42 » Friday 29 July 2005 12:52:37pm

DD said that all the horcruxes must be destroyed before Voldemort could be destroyed. How will that happen of Harry is a horcrux?
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Postby Tanuki » Friday 29 July 2005 3:00:08pm

Self sacrifice ring a bell?
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Postby Dutchess42 » Friday 29 July 2005 3:09:53pm

Tanuki wrote:Self sacrifice ring a bell?


Possible, But that would be a deviation from the hero quest genre. And, after he destroyed himself, who would be able to destroy Voldemort?

There might be a way to destroy the V within him without killing himself though.
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