Whose death is the saddest?

Which one is your favorite so far. Are they getting even better as the characters develop over time?

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Postby Stumpy » Tuesday 19 July 2005 4:49:02pm

Lupin can still be one as he has always trested Harry well but kept at a distance. Hopefully tonks may bring out a more mentor like Lupin esp as seems the obvious choice to head up the order now DD has gone
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Postby Violet » Tuesday 19 July 2005 4:49:37pm

although i was upset that sirius died (and i did cry at that :( ) i think i thought it was worse that dumbledore died cause he has been there through all the books, and well he just totally kicked ass. he cared more about harry than any of the other characters even seemed to realise, i dnt think that hary even knoew how much that dd cared about him, so definately dd.
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Postby Phinea Rogue » Thursday 21 July 2005 1:02:46pm

I wasn't really upset when Sirius died, I was actually glad that it was him and not someone else that I care for more (though then I started missing him), but now... Dumbledore's death was very sad to me, not only because he died, but because it was Snape who killed him. And the whole scene was very sad - how he was talking with Draco and Draco didn't really wanted to kill him... *sniff*
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Postby Violet » Thursday 21 July 2005 1:18:28pm

yeah it seemed like such a waste. At the begininning when snape made the unbreakable vow i thought that he was just saying that and was going to die for the order, but maybe thats me believing what dumbledore said about him coming onto the good side!
I wonder how they'll all cope without him now.. i mean even the older characters turn to dumbledore when things go wrong not just the students. Theyve all lost their leader :(
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Postby sirius_lives_forever » Thursday 21 July 2005 10:38:05pm

Don't get me wrong, I loved Sirius!!!(hint my name) But I think DD's death was sadder, just because we grew up reading these books, and DD was always there, right from the start. His death hit me hard. I didn't cry though, I'm just not that emotional of a person, I didn't cry for Sirius' death or DD's.
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Postby Fweegal » Friday 22 July 2005 2:39:21pm

Yeah I defy anyone not to be upset by DD's death. He was the comforting figure for everyone, readers included. When things got bad, he turned up with near-omnipotent knowledge and power.

I mean, remember his appearance in the Ministry in OotP, when he fights LV. I was close to cheering for him out loud!

RIP Albus
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Postby Stumpy » Friday 22 July 2005 3:24:22pm

If DD wanted to go then i dont find it upsetting i still think he could've saved himself if he'd wanted
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Postby thestral » Friday 22 July 2005 8:54:19pm

for me, it's not what's sadder, but what's harder to accept. i could accept DD's death pretty quick, cos it was necessary for so many reasons, for harry to go it alone etc etc. but i couldn't accept sirius's death and still it irks me. for me it's who's was more pointless and the answer is sirius's, which makes it sadder.
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Postby Pattenrond » Saturday 23 July 2005 11:49:24am

I think the most pointless death until now in the HP books was that of Cedric at the end of book 4: there's really no reason why Cedric should have reached the cemetery with Harry, he was there only to prove Voldemort's cruelty. I was really shoked by that death (and he was a defenceless child...).

Sirius' death didn't make me cry, it's more that I felt the same as Harry: anger. Harry knew if he had been more "careful" not to believe his "dreams", to learn Occlumency, and no to believe Kreacher, the whole thing wouldn't have happened. I don't mean it was Harry's fault, but the whole story was just so irritating that it gets hard to accept that death. The worse thing for me after Sirius' death was Harry's reaction, it almost spoiled a bit of the emotion... But of course it was part of his "initiation", of his "becoming an adult". Another irritating detail about that death: there wasn't any body to mourn, Sirius had actually just "disappeared". And the worst: if Harry had opened his present before (the little mirror), he could have known that Kreacher lied...

Dumbledore's death was much more emotional, maybe because we can see it coming (although I hoped someone was going to save him!), and because there is a body, there is a funeral... I still don't understand fully why Dumbledore had to die but I think we'll have answers in the last book. So for me, his death was much more sadder. I felt sadness, not anger. And thinking about it, it couldn't really have been avoided.
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Postby crystallised_pineapple » Saturday 23 July 2005 12:18:21pm

for me sirius' is worse.. like thestral said it was totally pointless, and so unlike him, he didn't even kill any DEs...and i miss him :-(

DD though was really emotional, especially as he was in control of everything he was depended on by all of the characters and now harry has to depend on himself, which i suppose was the reason for his death.
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Postby thestral » Saturday 23 July 2005 3:03:30pm

i think weasley gurl hit the nail on the head about sirius's death. it was just so irritating that you couldn't accept it. the whole build-up to it, the way he dies, harry's reaction, there was no body. it just left you angry, confused and in disbelief.

i just hated the way sirius died. he didn't go out in flames and glory, but he deserved to and instead he fell through a bloody curtain!! and i know the point that JK was making was that in war, not everyone dies in a head holding emotional last words and then their head lolls to the side kind of death. in battle people die unfairly and all that. but i don't care!!! sirius didn't deserve that.
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Postby Tanuki » Saturday 23 July 2005 5:26:42pm

Who does; I think that pointlessness and unfairness made the moment all the more poignant
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Postby redhead_723 » Saturday 23 July 2005 8:32:08pm

Both were sad but DD death affected me more. I could tell that it was comming throughout the whole book but still, that scene was just so well written, it was really hard to get through.
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Postby Salazar Slytherin » Sunday 14 August 2005 12:02:32am

i was saddened by both but i think ddd needed to die he was getting old i think sirius death was much crueler because harrys relationship with sirius had just started.
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