*Spoiler* - Cruciatus

[highsorcerer]

Harry's fate is quite clear - he's the one who can get rid of Voldemort for good. Harry, however, made the choice of how he'd get rid of him very early on. The Sorting Hat saw two destinies for Harry. He could enter Slytherin, seize as much personal power as he could, and eventually learn dark arts which would allow him to upsurpe Voldemort and take his place. When Harry rejected Slytherin, he turned his back on that destiny. I have to wonder if Dumbledore would have the living daylights scared out of him if Harry had opted for that kind of power.

[June]

I have to wonder if Dumbledore would have the living daylights scared out of him if Harry had opted for that kind of power.

That's a thought... but I should think that Dumbledore would have known from the start which path Harry would choose, that is, he trusted Harry to make the right choice from the very beginning...

[highsorcerer]

Dumbledore played a dangerous game, leaving Harry with the Dursley's knowing he was in for a bad ten years. It could have pushed him to the breaking point where Harry would do anything to get power in order to avenge himself on them, similiar to the way Tom Riddle, Jr. did on his muggle father and grandparents.

If he was aware of that possibility, he did the right thing in sending Hagrid to confront the Dursley's in book one. As Hagrid served as Harry's introduction to the magical world, his word would be the most deeply imprinted on him, at least at the start. Hagrid did two things; told him the truth about the murder of his parents, and associated dark wizards with Slytherin house. It was probably the most effective method there was to keep Harry out of the dark side.

[Elektra]

Harry has used a forbidden spell - so he has to take the consequences ...
According to the magical law, he should be expelled from Hogwarts for this... Right?!?

[Gypsy]

I don't think Harry will get in trouble for using the Cruciatus curse, as he used it against a Death Eater in alife threatening situation, which i dont think anybody could hold against him.

Also, how will the authorities know that it was Harry that cast that curse? There were loads of death eaters at the MoM, so although they may have detected the curse, they will surely presume a Death Eater or even LV cast it.

Anyway, I think that Fudge has been humiliated enough by Harry and DD, so he wont attempt to convict Harry again.

[Kaizer]

i wonder what kind of pain it feels like...

[Ju-DedoH]

unspeakable pain i suppose, but we know it is located to where the spell hits the body

[Kaizer]

ouch i wouldnt want to be hit in the eye

[toybox410]

I had a problem with this particular Cruciatus incident immediately after reading it. Bellatrix tells Harry that the spell didn't do much to her because he didn't really mean it. Now, I may be naive, but is there any point in life that Harry would have meant for the spell to cause pain more than after watching his godfather get murdered? I mean she killed Sirius, why wouldn't Harry want to cause her some extreme pain? I know I would. My point is, I think, realistically, that she should have felt some INTENSE pain. (I know... I am asking for realism from book with flying brooms and house-elves.)

Anyone else feel this way?

toybox410

[June]

I think Bellatrix meant that Harry didn't enjoy seeing someone in pain. He might have felt justified and wanted her to feel excruciating pain after seeing her kill his godfather, but he didn't enjoy it and didn't want to enjoy it. (Thank goodness, or he'll just be as bad as Belltrix...) The Death Eaters, on the other hand, are sadistic people who gets a thrill out of seeing someone in pain, and that's why they cause it in the first place... the intention behind the curse is the crux to the spell, I should think.

[Ju-DedoH]

but some aururs have used it on death eaters ... what could that mean ...

[KBIG104]

Harry's spell never went off, so he HASN'T used the "Crucio" Curciatius curse.

It's no different than talking about it while holding your want. He didn't have the strength, as Mr. Weasley wouldn't really be able to either, to trigger it.

Therefore Harry hasn't used one. Although he certainly tried.

[Ju-DedoH]

the problem is the trying part of it though (I may be repeating myself) cos' you have to want to do it to try and do it and that's what scares me

[highsorcerer]

I would rather doubt the Aurors could get much out of Crucio if one really needed to enjoy causing pain to others. They would probably be less emotionally involved than Harry was with Sirius, and wouldn't have had anywhere near his anger level.

I suspect the Aurors used the Imperius curse to put them under control until they could be tried and sent to Azkaban, or Avada Kedavra if that failed. The term "Wanted - Dead or Alive" seems to come to mind.

[June]

I would rather doubt the Aurors could get much out of Crucio if one really needed to enjoy causing pain to others. They would probably be less emotionally involved than Harry was with Sirius, and wouldn't have had anywhere near his anger level.

I suspect the Aurors used the Imperius curse to put them under control until they could be tried and sent to Azkaban, or Avada Kedavra if that failed. The term "Wanted - Dead or Alive" seems to come to mind.

That's what I thought too... that the aurors probably used the Avada Kedavra curse or the Imperious curse, and not the Cruciatus curse.