What do we know about Godric's Hollow?

Which one is your favorite so far. Are they getting even better as the characters develop over time?

Moderators: Nightcrawler, Mint, Simatra, Asphodel, Athena Appleton

What do we know about Godric's Hollow?

Postby carsten » Friday 26 May 2006 2:36:58pm

The overall story line is about the rise and fall of LV, starting at his lowest point, when he lost his powers at Godric's Hollow. At the end of the HBP book, Harry considers to visit the spot. So it must be quite important for the story, but we know very little about the events:
  • Who was killed there?
  • Where is it?
  • Why were so many muggles there?
  • Who rescued Harry from the ruckus?
  • Who saved LV's wand when he suffered from the spell?

And I could go on making up more questions.

I am very curious about this and hope for explanations in the final book!
:-)
User avatar
carsten
Fully Qualified Wizard
 
Posts: 197
Joined: Wednesday 21 April 2004 10:42:09am
Location: Beating the Drums of Time

Postby Mistress Siana » Wednesday 31 May 2006 3:26:28am

Hm, there are just a few things we know, but some we can guess.

-The name implies a connection to Godric Gryffindor. And isn't LV rather keen on finding leftovers of Gryffindor?

-Muggles? Hm, you're referring to Wormtail blowing up twelve of them when Sirius confronted him, right? Do we know if that was actually In GH?

-Hagrid rescued Harry, according to Dumbledore.

-JKR was asked in an interview if there was somebody else present that night in GH, and she said she couldn't comment. Frankly, that means that yes, somebody else was there. Who? My money's on Wormtail, he was way too quick to get LV's wand and make his escape. If it was indeed Wormtail who got the wand, but who else could have done it?

-If LV really intended to use the murder of Harry to make his last Horcrux, as DD expected, which object did he want to use? And shouldn't it still be there?

-Considering the amount of foreshadowing and parallelism in the books, maybe the final battle will take place in GH. You know, it ends where it starts where it...stuff like that.
User avatar
Mistress Siana
Slytherin Chaser and Devil's advocate
 
Posts: 1862
Joined: Thursday 12 December 2002 5:40:13pm
Location: Palace of Tears

Postby carsten » Wednesday 31 May 2006 3:46:38pm

Mistress Siana wrote:Hm, there are just a few things we know, but some we can guess.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply!

I am wandering a little bit astray with this. Bear with me, but the idea came, when you mentioned the object for the horcrux.

Do you remember the scene in HPB, when Harry finds out about Mundungus stealing posessions from Black's house? Maybe LV is using or imperiusing Mundungus to get hold of the locket, which Remus acquired before his untimely death. Or if Munungus "accidentally" stole the locket, Harry might have a hard time finding it again in book 7.

Am I sounding confused? :???:
User avatar
carsten
Fully Qualified Wizard
 
Posts: 197
Joined: Wednesday 21 April 2004 10:42:09am
Location: Beating the Drums of Time

Postby Mistress Siana » Wednesday 31 May 2006 7:52:43pm

There've been some big discussion about that locket, I think...I think we can assume this was the original locket of Slytherin which RAB stole from the cave. If RAB is indeed Regulus Black, it would make sense for the locket to be in Grimmault Place. What I don't understand is how you bring Remus into it? The question is: Is it still a Horcrux? Or did RAB menage to destroy it? And what does Aberforth Dumbledore have to do with it? Does he have more insight into his brother's affairs than we think? He intrigues me, this Aberforth.

But the locket has been turned into a Horcrux and hidden in the cave before LV went after Harry, so it couldn't have been in Godric's Hollow. This last Horcrux would be either something of Ravenclaw's or something of Gryffindor's, right, since that was what Voldemort wanted. Godric's Hollow-Gryffindor Horcrux...could they be related?
User avatar
Mistress Siana
Slytherin Chaser and Devil's advocate
 
Posts: 1862
Joined: Thursday 12 December 2002 5:40:13pm
Location: Palace of Tears

Postby draconeedsahug » Tuesday 27 June 2006 2:04:30pm

Is it likely that Voldemort was still able to make a Horcrux when the curse deflected? We don't know much about Horcrux making except that it's got to be difficult right? So even if he had the intention of making a Horcrux with Harry's death, would he still have the strength after being Avada Kedavra'd?
draconeedsahug
Third Year Student in Witchcraft and Wizardry
 
Posts: 42
Joined: Friday 3 March 2006 9:07:29pm
Location: Hovering outside the Slytherin Common Room trying to get a glimpse of Draco

Postby Mistress Siana » Tuesday 27 June 2006 4:12:00pm

I think it depends on when you have to perform the spell or ritual necessary to create the Horcrux. When all the preparations have to be done before the murder, and the splitting of the soul is the last thing to be done, it would be possible. If you have to split your soul first and then cast the spell, he couldn't have done it.
User avatar
Mistress Siana
Slytherin Chaser and Devil's advocate
 
Posts: 1862
Joined: Thursday 12 December 2002 5:40:13pm
Location: Palace of Tears

Postby horcrux hunter911 » Thursday 20 July 2006 12:33:14am

It does seem as though one would actually have to do the killing before they could create a horcrux, since the killing is what tears apart the soul and the incantation is used to kind of encase it. thats one of the reasons I don't get the whole "Harry is an accidental Horcrux theory"
horcrux hunter911
Second Year
 
Posts: 29
Joined: Tuesday 19 July 2005 5:24:44pm
Location: lying in the cave lake waiting for intruders

Postby kp-peanut » Monday 14 August 2006 5:47:47pm

Well, back to the subject of Godric's Hollow, in Quidditch Through the Ages it says, "The invention of the Golden Snitch is credited to the wizard Bowman Wright of Godric's Hollow" Which means he was also another inhabitant of Godric Hollow.....although, this probably has only a minor connection. And yes Godric Hollow and Godric Gryffindor do have a link between them so i wouldn't be suprised if Gryffindor's Horcrux was here. Infact, it would make perfect sense.
I think that the mysteries of Godric Hollow will be revealed in the next book as its going to contain a lot of information about the Potter's and all your question's will most certainly be answered :lol: :lol:
User avatar
kp-peanut
Fifth Year Student in Witchcraft and Wizardry
 
Posts: 82
Joined: Thursday 10 August 2006 8:58:43am
Location: Gloucestershire

Postby Chimera » Monday 14 August 2006 6:19:27pm

Gryffindor might've been buried with something. Not his sword or his hat (now the school sorting hat), maybe he had a brooch with his emblem on it? He sounds like a fighter, maybe he wore a gauntlet or whatever...
Chimera
Fully Qualified Wizard
 
Posts: 376
Joined: Tuesday 6 December 2005 9:58:59pm
Location: Gryffindor common room

Postby kp-peanut » Monday 14 August 2006 6:33:40pm

Yeah something like that....it's probably a small possession of his that he used to carry around with him or something
User avatar
kp-peanut
Fifth Year Student in Witchcraft and Wizardry
 
Posts: 82
Joined: Thursday 10 August 2006 8:58:43am
Location: Gloucestershire

Postby Eol » Monday 14 August 2006 6:59:41pm

We know that Godric's Hollow is going to be one of the first places Harry is going in the new book, after the wedding to visit his parents' graves. I think it is early on in the book that a lot of the missing pieces will be filled in. Perhaps somebody approaches Harry with information while he's there. Although as to the point that it may all end there, it seems like JK's style to do just that.
User avatar
Eol
Lightning Bearer
 
Posts: 281
Joined: Saturday 2 August 2003 10:38:51am
Location: Over there

Postby Chimera » Tuesday 15 August 2006 12:19:22am

Might even be concealed in the house. Marvolo's ring was.
Chimera
Fully Qualified Wizard
 
Posts: 376
Joined: Tuesday 6 December 2005 9:58:59pm
Location: Gryffindor common room

Postby Snow_Crystal » Tuesday 15 August 2006 11:41:40am

I wonder why Lily and James hid in Godrics Hollow of all places. Was there some sort of Gryffindor protection for them there or were they hiding something of Gryffindors??? Yes, yes I know they had protection on their whereabouts and had a secret keeper etc but it just seems to coincidental that it happened to be Godrics Hollow.
User avatar
Snow_Crystal
Supreme Chancellor of the Gryffindor Messenger Service and Head of the Hogwarts Owlery
 
Posts: 1185
Joined: Monday 18 July 2005 4:13:24pm
Location: Flying around eagerly waiting for Midnight...

Postby Eol » Tuesday 15 August 2006 12:53:57pm

I don't see where the coincidence is. Godric's Hollow was where they were hiding. That's the only reason that we know about it at all.
User avatar
Eol
Lightning Bearer
 
Posts: 281
Joined: Saturday 2 August 2003 10:38:51am
Location: Over there

Postby Chimera » Tuesday 15 August 2006 7:23:12pm

I'm sure to them it was coincidence, but it's poetic in the sense of the Gryffindor/Slytherin rivalry.

Maybe Harry is the heir of Gryffindor, now that'd be poetic.
Chimera
Fully Qualified Wizard
 
Posts: 376
Joined: Tuesday 6 December 2005 9:58:59pm
Location: Gryffindor common room

Next

Return to The Books

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests

cron