the case of the missing spell

[Hagger 9003]

i just read this on an editorial on mugglenet, and it intrigued me. basically, it says that, during the priori incantem bit at the end of GoF, a spell is missing from LV's wand. what happened to the AK which was supposed to kill harry? the wand goes straight from bertha jorkins to the potters, but misses out harry. why is this? is this another mistake on JKR's part? i agree with the editorial here, she would have noticed it when people pointed out the thing about james and lily being the wrong way round.

but then, what happened to the Avada Kedrava? this is the most important spell in the book, the one which sends LV into spirit form, gives harry his scar, and gives harry his love protection. the editorial says that lily might have disarmed LV, but i dont think so. not very likely. this sounds very important, and like a major plot point to me. what do all of you think?

[Un'Anima Persa]

not sure... but i never actually thought about it... i dont think that she disarmed him though...

[Mistress Siana]

Oh my god, you're right! I never noticed...only would you have seen it? I mean, noone was killed, nothing was really affected, so how would it look?

[Broccoli]

Or maybe he had to use somebody elese's wand??

[Mistress Siana]

Hm, that would just make sense if it got important later on...I doubt Voldemort would kill James, then kill Lily and just for the fun of it change his wand before killing Harry. Maybe it's important that Voldemort's wand contains a feather of Dumbledore's phoenix (I've always wondered why that's the case)?

[Hagger 9003]

the spell still had an affect. it made voldy into a spirit for 13 or so years, so it was pretty serious. ive been trying to think, and maybe its something to do with JKR's important question: why didnt LV die?

mayb the events leading to harry's scar arent all we think. no one saw it except LV, and he may have motives for keeping it a secret. who knows? its definitely very curious, although i dont know at all.

i think it might be a plot point, like u said, siana, but im not good at thinking about what it is, or what it means. i do think it has to do with why LV didnt die though.

[DragonFiend17]

i think he had too much power...he couldnt die because, well, my theory is that part of the spell backfired on LV, but the part that hit harry was the part that gave him his scar...and i guess since the spell is so strong it made the connection between LV and HP so strong--through AK and scar.

[Phinea Rogue]

That's interesting, how come I haven't seen it before? I suppose it goes with the question "Why didn't Voldemort die?", but despite of him not dying, he had cast the spell, so... why wasn't it there? There could be something with Dumbledore's phoenix feather as Siana said, though I have no idea what, why... Maybe (just speculating) when Dumbledore was the secret keeper, he placed something protective over the house they were hiding it and since phoenix is his pet, he could have something to do with it... No, I'm getting more and more confused.


Furthermore...
Dumbledore wasn't their secret keeper, I got it wrong. But still he could have added some protection over Lily and James or at least Harry.

[Mistress Siana]

Hm...maybe the spell kind of came undone? The reason Harry didn't die and the reason Voldemort did not die might not be connected at all, maybe whatever Voldemort did to become immortal somehow "reacted" with the Avada Kedavra curse so that both were distroyed?

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

Broccoli's point a few posts back sprung something into my mind.
Maybe LV didn't use his own wand, and the wand he used, say James or Lily's was infused with good magic, so when a wielder cast a particularly evil spell, say... Avada Kedavra, it would rebound upon it's holder.
Why wouldn't he be using his own wand though?
I wouldn't question out Lily disarming LV, she was a powerful witch. Unfortunately not powerful enough, but powerful.
Or maybe Priori Incantatem doesn't show every spell you've cast in reverse order, it just shows all the people that have been killed by the wand. Maybe JK got it wrong?
No, that cannot be there must be a REASON!

[Tanuki]

No, Harry was loved so much, ancient magic protected him, and Voldermort did such horrible things to himself to make himself immortal that he could not die. Remember how he says that he took precautions to make sure he wouldn't

[Nightcrawler]

Maybe the result would have been a slight pain in Harry's forehead? And becuase his forehead felt like it was on fire anyway, he probably wouldn't have noticed. Still, this should have affected Voldermort somehow too.

[Tanuki]

It did, he was thrown out of his body, left worse off than a ghost. It had to be a strong effect if it did that. For someone who was probably next to invincible at the time to be almost destroyed by that... yeesh

[Scellanis]

well what would the shadow of that spell be anyway...I mean, the dead people come out as ghosts...the dark mark came out of harry's wand during the earlier use at the quidditch game but what exactly was the effect of the spell cast on Harry. It didn't kill anyone, both of its victims were standing there holding wands connected by the spell, maybe because the spell didn't do what it was intended to nothing could come out of the wand, perhaps only completed spells come out of wands and spells blocked by something are not complete and do not have a shadow?

[Hagger 9003]

it didnt have an intended effect, but it still was alot of power. kinda scary...