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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Friday 6 August 2004 7:01:47pm

I'm sad it's not Arthur, but look at it logically: he's the head of a obsure and as Ron put it, "boring" department. I'm not saying he's not a good leader, because he really would make a good MoM, it's just that whoever chooses the MoM will want a person that maybe was already higher up, like the head of Magical Law-Enforcement or something. My vote goes to Madam Bones, but it may be a new character altogether.
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Postby Phinea Rogue » Saturday 7 August 2004 1:31:11pm

Evil Wizard Petting Zoo wrote:My vote goes to Madam Bones, but it may be a new character altogether.


The same for me, Amelie Bones is my tip. She seems already to have an important possition and she's fair. I can't imagine anyone else as the new minister unless it will be a new character.
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Postby Marcus Baker » Saturday 7 August 2004 4:34:03pm

I dunno, but I am aiming for a new character to be the minister of magic, that coincidentally is part of Harry or his family's past. I dont think Amelia Bones will end up being Minister of Magic, it seems that were trying to find people we know in the Minister of Magic that supports Dumbledore and not Fudge (which are a few people, including Arthur and we know for a fact hes not going to be it). So Im aiming for a new Minister of Magic.
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Postby carsten » Saturday 7 August 2004 4:49:33pm

Phinea Rogue wrote:
Evil Wizard Petting Zoo wrote:My vote goes to Madam Bones, but it may be a new character altogether.

The same for me, Amelie Bones is my tip. ...

Question is: Will it be someone supportive for DD or a person who might fall prey to the dark forces? For JKR the latter might have some appeal, because it would create a lot of tension and conflict in the story. On the other hand: we had this with Umbridge and Fudge. So my vote goes to Ms. Bones, too.
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Postby Herminny » Sunday 8 August 2004 2:18:49am

i think that they will probably be somewhat against Harry, although i hope they arn't :evil:

The way i'm thinking is that things have to get harder for harry, each book presents a larger problem, a darker environment. With Voldy's thing about breaking friendships etc. I think Harry willhave people, many people against him in the next book. I for one would find the same level of darkness :evil: from the 1st book a let down, we are all expecting higher drama.

So yeah if you just made sense of that Well Done! :o
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Postby Centaur Lord » Sunday 8 August 2004 3:40:48am

Hmmm, i disagree. I think the general public's attitude torward Harry will have totally changed from the fifth to the sixth book. We saw the beginning of this at the very end of OOTP. People were waving to him as he walked across the grounds, and it is said in the books that they no longer thought him an attention-seeking idiot. Now that i have said this, i also want to say that i have absolutely no idea what attitude they are going to have torward him, just that it will be changed... :D . I think they will be a little apprehensive of him, almost scared of what he will think of them. They dont know if he has accepted their apology or not....Wow, i totally lost my train of thought... :-? . Ok well back on topic, i think that Ameila Bones will be the new minister of magic. Arthur simply cannot be the minister. Although he is certainly well-known, people still think he is a bit weird because of his muggle obsession (it wasnt just fudge). He is also still too low in the ranks of the ministy. To compare him to modern times, it would almost be like the head of the FBI (im american, sorry) suddenly being elected president. My vote is for Amelia Bones. We know that she is fair, she seemed so believe Harry and even like him a bit at his hearing. I dont think it will be a new character, simply because it is too late in the series to introduce another major character (excluding DADA teachers). At this point in the story, we dont want anymore people, we just want the story to keep rolling. Ok, so hopefully you can see through the mud in this post to what counts (if there is any :) )
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Postby Athena Appleton » Monday 9 August 2004 12:01:19pm

well, pooh-ey.

Amelia Bones would be the next best thing, I guess. Arthur does say that she's fair, which is good... and she was impressed with Harry's skill, even when others were being a little rude about it...

k, now i'm tired... nitenite
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Postby Q8Hermione » Friday 13 August 2004 10:19:15am

I can't guess who is gonna be but i hope its arthur..It would be cool if he's gonna be a minister..
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Postby Centaur Lord » Sunday 15 August 2004 1:24:15am

That would be cool, except that JKR has already confirmed that Arthur will not be the minister of magic. If you want proof, go to www.halfbloodprince.info, good site with lots of info on it. Its there somewhere. Anyway, my money is still on Amelia Bones. For more info, see my above post, because if i typed my thoughts again, i would basically be repeating myself...
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Postby Athena Appleton » Sunday 15 August 2004 2:01:56am

Yeah... it's, like, way cool and stuff when people don't read through the thread, or at least the last several posts, to see where the conversation has headed... :lol:
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Postby Luke » Monday 16 August 2004 5:43:13am

Its also in JKR's offical site at jkrowling.com that Authur won't be MoM. I'm kind of glad that Authur won't be MoM cause of the fact he loves muggles. If he was made MoM then he would probably breach some magical law about Muggles. I think someone in the order will take over because it seems to me that the magical community will get wind (think thats the right phrase, lol) of what Dumbledore has done, and will basically stick to whatever he says. I hope its Lupin after all the trouble he's had he deserves it, :-)
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Postby Athena Appleton » Monday 16 August 2004 10:34:59pm

Even though we know that it won't be Arthur Weasley who will be the new MoM ( :-( ), I think it's important to mention that I really dont' think he would be involved with some breach of muggle-related law. With the slight exception of the Ford Anglia, he seems to be very intent on Muggle-related laws and security, and is quite strict with his children for them to follow those standards. The Ford Anglia incident, btw, appears to be more of a bumbling mistake, since he doesn't appear to have really intended to have anyone see it flying. He's clueless when it comes to Muggles (despite his fascination with them), but he tries very very hard to follow the laws, if not by the letter, by the spirit.
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Postby paintballdecoy » Tuesday 17 August 2004 1:29:22am

But, even if he did breach some law...well, he's MOM so who would care. He might even slacken some laws. Not that it matters, becuase he won't be the new MoM.

I think it will be someone in the Order who becomes the new MoM. Or it could be Percy, you never know, maybe he knocks Fudge off and appoints himself MoM.
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Revolution!

Postby carsten » Tuesday 17 August 2004 8:31:21am

Paintballdecoy wrote:But, even if he did breach some law...well, he's MOM so who would care. He might even slacken some laws. Not that it matters, becuase he won't be the new MoM.
Sorry if this sounds old fashioned, but I still care about politicians breaking the law! I am just an Old European...

Paintballdecoy wrote:I think it will be someone in the Order who becomes the new MoM. Or it could be Percy, you never know, maybe he knocks Fudge off and appoints himself MoM.
Percy isn't qualified at all: He lacks experience, age / maturity and friends with influence. And he is a nerd. :evil:

Maybe my mind is running wild, but how about this idea: What if the ministry is taken over in a revolution? The ruling party swept away? Arthur and other members of the order would be fired of course. Death eaters and Azkaban's guards could be set free. The Malfoy clan could take over. Amnesty for LV? This would be a lot to fight against for the order.
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Re: Revolution!

Postby Athena Appleton » Tuesday 17 August 2004 3:17:28pm

carsten wrote:
Paintballdecoy wrote:But, even if he did breach some law...well, he's MOM so who would care. He might even slacken some laws. Not that it matters, becuase he won't be the new MoM.
Sorry if this sounds old fashioned, but I still care about politicians breaking the law! I am just an Old European...


Yeah... I'm just a young American, and I feel the same way. Changing laws through due process is one thing... thinking the laws don't apply to you because you're the guy on top, that's quite another.

Paintballdecoy wrote:I think it will be someone in the Order who becomes the new MoM. Or it could be Percy, you never know, maybe he knocks Fudge off and appoints himself MoM.
Percy isn't qualified at all: He lacks experience, age / maturity and friends with influence. And he is a nerd. :evil:


Yeah... I don't think it would be Percy. Besides, I get the feeling you can't just assasinate the MoM and appoint yourself leader. We're not talking about 1930's Argentina here, we're talking about modern, well, kind-of England.

Maybe my mind is running wild, but how about this idea: What if the ministry is taken over in a revolution? The ruling party swept away? Arthur and other members of the order would be fired of course. Death eaters and Azkaban's guards could be set free. The Malfoy clan could take over. Amnesty for LV? This would be a lot to fight against for the order.
:o


Hmmm... :lol: I hadn't even read this yet before making the Argentina comment, but yeah... I actually kind of like this. For the next two books, instead of things getting better and more fair, things just get totally black, then there's some hope at the end.

I don't think the new MoM would be anyone of the Order. If I thought of anyone, it would be Arthur Weasley, but since he's not, I really don't think it'll become Lupin or any of the very qualified witches or wizards who meet in secret to plan to fight Voldemort.

1. Things aren't hunky-dory right now in regards to Voldemort, so they're still going to have to have their secrets, and they're still going to have to spend a lot of time, effort and energy fighting Voldemort. If any of them were to become too prominent, Voldemort or one of his faithful servants could easily see him/her as an easy target. So the only one who really lets himself stand out in a crowd is Dumbledore, who, as we saw in OotP, can hold his own in a fight with Voldemort.

2. Most of the people who are in the Order would not have the popular support needed to become MoM. Even though we, and those who give him a chance in the books, really really like Lupin, the majority of the population is not going to accept having a werewolf for a MoM. Even if those people had gratitude for all he does, and like him otherwise, their gratitude would not, in my opinion, go so far as to see him as an acceptable Minister. There is not one single person in the Order, as far as I can tell, who would have that combination of qualifications, popular support, and a willingness to take the job. Dumbledore himself would make an excellent Minister, but he's got a lot on his plate right now, and he only has two more years to protect Harry and get him ready for a showdown of some sort with Voldemort. I do think, though, that he will spend some more time at the Ministry...

Just curious, because I don't want to look all the way through, are we sure the new Minister will be in book 6, or was the question worded as "Will there be a new Minister of Magic?" with no specifics on when (book 6 or 7) that would happen?
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