Spinner's End septology clue

[Tanuki]

For rowling to build a character that has a tortured past, a bad attitude, and well, a bit of a heart, and then make him completely evil? I dont think so... Voldemort is the main Villain, and Snape, the misunderstood character.

Things aren't ever what they seem in this book, a ring, is not just a ring, its a horcrux, ect.

Maybe that's the twist you all have been looking for. Maybe this character we've been worked by for six books to pity and respect, is actually more badass than we;ve all been forced to believe. Think about how much work J.K.R. has been working to make us feel bad for Snape's background, and yet, we're still presented with the whole idea that Harry hates him. How shocked were all of you when Snape turned, after everything we've been forced to swallow about him? I think that's what J.K.R is hoping for

[Snow_Crystal]

Here's a thought, we don't know whether DD asked Snape to make an unbreakable vow to ensure he did not break his unbreakable vow he made with Narcissa...that might have been what Snape didn't want to do.

If that were the case, someone else would have to bond them...

[Person1]

Something just came to my attention, something....that makes what i have said b4 seem wrong, perhaps Snape was evil...He knew about Draco's plan, and that he would let a bunch of death eaters in, if he told DD, DD would NEVER let the kids be endangered as such.

Food for thought.

[Dutchess42]

Something just came to my attention, something....that makes what i have said b4 seem wrong, perhaps Snape was evil...He knew about Draco's plan, and that he would let a bunch of death eaters in, if he told DD, DD would NEVER let the kids be endangered as such.

Food for thought.

I'm confused. You mean he knew about the cabinet?

[Enchanter]

[quote="Snowy"]Here's a thought, we don't know whether DD asked Snape to make an unbreakable vow to ensure he did not break his unbreakable vow he made with Narcissa...that might have been what Snape didn't want to do.

If that were the case, someone else would have to bond them...[/quote



what would making an Unbreakable Vow not to break an Unbreakable Vow do. It would only result in the same thing as not doing what you vowed to do in the first place. Anyways i'm positive DD didn't know that Snape made an Unbreakable Vow in the first place]

[Person1]

Well, he was likely told of the mission, why make an unbreakable vow if ya dont know the whole story??

Also, Draco and Snape were talking after the party..

[Person1]

True, but is Snape was good, would he not have told DD bout the plot?

(started typing b4 the post after dutchess.)

[Dutchess42]

But Draco kept complaining that Snape was trying to figure out what he was doing but Draco wasn't going to let him find out and take all the glory. Draco was hiding his cabinet from Snape.

[Person1]

Good point. But, Snape would have known that something was gonna happen, it not like one would expect Draco to just point his wand at DD at any old time and kill him.

[Dutchess42]

what would making an Unbreakable Vow not to break and Unbreakalbe Vow do.

Laughed so hard at that line that someone in the next room had to come in to see what was so funny.

(Not that what you said wasn't true)

[Dutchess42]

Good point. But, Snape would have known that something was gonna happen, it not like one would expect Draco to just point his wand at DD at any old time and kill him.

True. But he would not think that Draco would have been clever enough to get Death Eaters inside Hogwarts. The other things Draco had done were kind of lame.

[Person1]

Yeah, good point again...But then again, Snape is a great legimens, and well, Draco likely has no understanding of Occlumency, so he could have easily read his mind.

[Dutchess42]

Yeah, good point again...But then again, Snape is a great legimens, and well, Draco likely has no understanding of Occlumency, so he could have easily read his mind.

- which makes one wonder why he could not find Draco's quest out from Narcissa and Bellatrix in Chapter two. I'm thinking he might be a great Occlumens but not a great legimens - now I have to go re-read some more.

But - for the sake of continuance - let's say he was able to read Draco's mind and that he is evil. Would he not have been better prepared for the fray? It seemed like it took him by surprise.

[Person1]

It seemed like it took him by surprise.

To whom do you refer to, Snape or DD?

If its Snape, yeah, he was told about it after it started

As for DD, well, if Snape was evil, he'd have no prior knowledge, but if he wasn't, and told DD, well then i would have to say that he had no prior notice to when the attack was (same w. Snape because he got up there only as soon as he heard bout it, and seemed suprised.)

[annachie]

Tanuki(?) made reference to Snapes background, but to me, his background seems real similar to both Harry's and LV.

more later