Proof: Sprout is evil!!!

[Dumbledores Master]

Yes but I don`t think he would check Sprout bcse after all who would suspect Sprout? But then all the more reason to use her. I don`t think Sprout is evil bcse surely DD would have realised that.

[Emma'I'm a real witch']

This might sound like a bit of a stupid question, but how can you check if someone is under the imperious curse?

[Groo]

well, there could be a countercurse, or he could use veritaserum.
Just a few queries,if a weak person is hit by the imperius curse does he remain a puppet forever, even after the perpetuator dies, forexample? then whose orders will he follow?

[Evil Wizard Petting Zoo]

I think that like most spells, it will wear off eventually, I think it depends on how much power the attacking wizard put into the curse. And remember in GoF when crouch jr was under Veritaserum, he said that after awhile he was able to begin to resist the curse. So I think time will make the curse weaker as time goes by.

[Jotomicron]

Well, Harry has been twice under the Imperius Curse. Now he isn't any more (at least, he doesn't seem to be...). In my point of view, the curse ends after the person who curses wnat it...

[Alice I]

I got the impression (and I am not sure where now) that the Imperius Curse can be lifted from someone, but the problem is recognising it in the first place.

Remember when Crouch Sr. was in the room with the four champions after they were picked.
He looked strained and Dumbledopre noticed. He seemed concerned and tried to get Crouch to stay for a nightcap.
Crouch was under the Imperious curse at the time and Dumbledore noticed something was not quite right with him but did not realize it was the Imperious Curse.
So if even DD can not readily identify the effects of said curse then it would be darned difficult for anyone elese to pick up on it.

Anyway I guess my point is that now DD has seen the Imperious Curse on Crouch and if Sprout was under it he would notice something was not quite right with her and might very well suspect that particular curse after the whole Crouch thing.

I personally think that the devils snare that turned up at St. Mungo's was gotten from some other source that the Hogwarts greenhouses.

[pallas artemis]

Why should we assume that Sprout isn't a DE. Don't get me wrong, I don't think she is and rather think her to be a sweet little old lady, but how much do we REALLY know about her. If Quirrel in PS/SS could have Volemort with him, right in front of DD, and a fake Moody can fool him, wjat makes her being a spy so outrageous.

[Athena Appleton]

If the only evidence of Sprout being evil is that a bit of Devil's Snare showed up in St. Mungo's, I think that's a pretty feeble theory...

I have wondered for a while now, though, if the three missing death eaters in the graveyard weren't exactly who we assume at first glance... but I don't think Sprout is the "other" Death Eater... I'm keeping my eyes on Sinistra (so far, almost all the names Rowling uses have significance, and someone with a name so similar to "sinister" is someone, I think, who is not to be trusted)

[Sacred Guardian]

here is how i see it, with crouch jr. the spy inside hogwarts has already been done, so i don't think that jkr would reuse it.

also, the devil's snare part is pretty weak. i think of getting these rare plants like getting strong prescriptions drugs. most people get them from a pharmacist, who is usually fairly honest and keeps teh drugs as what they should be used for. however, there is a black market of the drugs and one can get them. sprout is the good pharmacist.

i'm not sure about this, but i think it mentions somwhere that sprout rolls up here sleeves to do somthing, someone would have seen the dark mark on her arm, however faint it was, harry wouldn't have known what it was before 4th year, but others would have

[Athena Appleton]

the weird thing about that death mark is that no one ever noticed anything odd until GoF... I mean, if you're right, and someone would have noticed, how odd is it that no one ever noticed Snape's? I know he would be working hard to keep it hidden, but it seems as though someone would have gotton a glance at that arm before GoF and seen the death mark

[Evil Wizard Petting Zoo]

i'm not sure about this, but i think it mentions somwhere that sprout rolls up here sleeves to do somthing, someone would have seen the dark mark on her arm, however faint it was, harry wouldn't have known what it was before 4th year, but others would have

Good point!!!!! I also want to know more about this Sinestra character. Doesn't he/she teach Ancient Runes? I agree with what Athena said about Sinestra's name having significance.(Sinestra-Sinister) Although SEVERUS SNAPE is allegedly(sp?) good, but look at his name. But that could be because he's from one of the "good ol" evil pureblood families so Snape's parents would have wanted their baby to have an evil name.

[Athena Appleton]

haha, I think we posted at the same time...

like I said before, I think it's odd that we all of a sudden say "well, they would have noticed the dark mark," now that we know it exists. Truth be told, Harry knew nothing about there being a dark mark before GoF, and he saw someone with it day in and day out for the past four years before that.

Sinistra teaches Astronomy

Severus Snape lives up to his name. I mean, he is on the good side, but he is most certainly "severe".

[Evil Wizard Petting Zoo]

Sinistra teaches Astronomy

thanks!

like I said before, I think it's odd that we all of a sudden say "well, they would have noticed the dark mark," now that we know it exists. Truth be told, Harry knew nothing about there being a dark mark before GoF, and he saw someone with it day in and day out for the past four years before that.

Does Snape rollup his sleeves often though? Also, going back to SS/PS: why doesn't Snape's DM burn when Voldy is actually on Quirrel's head?

Severus Snape lives up to his name. I mean, he is on the good side, but he is most certainly "severe".

I've never really thought of it as "severe" before, though it is quite true! I always thought of "sever," like, "oops, I just severed my head off!"

[Alice I]

I got the distinct impression from Snape when he showed the Dark Mark on his arm to the minister at the end of GoF that the mark is not always visable. He said something like "It's not as clear as it was an hour ago but it is still there."
Then when Snape and Karakoff were talking after Potions class and Harry is listening in doesn't Karakoff show his arm to Snape and say something along the lines of look it is showing up and won't someone notice.?

I know that is not an exact quote or anything but it was something sort of like that.
The point is I got the impression that the Dark mark on their arms was hidden or invisable all the years that Voldy was just a spirit thingy, but when he got a rudimentary body back it started to show up.
Voldy even said something like "They will all have noticed it by now"

And again when Harry and co. go to see Sirius in the cave and Harry tells him about Karakoff showing his arm to Snape; Sirius says that he doesn't know what that is all about.
He was closest to James who was a prominent member of the Order so if the mark were something that could be easily seen then the Aurors who caught DE would have said something about it and the members of the Order at least would be aware of it.

Anyway I hope I am not rambling too much but I really don't think that the mark is always clear and evident.

[Ferrus]

I think that is an excellent point Alice, otherwise it would be too easy to lock up all the death eaters (just look at their arm). What bugs me is that Sirius didn´t know about the Dark Mark on the Death Eater´s arms, one would think that after being in the Order he would know about it...