Is Lily related to Slytherin?

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

I can see where you're coming from, and yes I've heard that too...

It just doesn't click for me though. I'm sure we would have heard something before now, and least a hint to provide some evidence to lean on. This is a theory that I can't really slam though, because it could come true.

[SunsetG|rl]

You know why Lily couldn't have been adopted? Because if she had been, then the whole "keep-harry-in-the-family-to-protect-him" wouldn't have worked, so Harry could have just been raised by Dumbledore for example... He wouldn't have had to stay with the Dursley family so long... But since they realy are blood relatives (Petunia at least), he was obligated to stay with them.

[Barny The Barn]

Well if both Petunia and Lily were real blood sisters and were both adopted by the same family then the Harry-in-the-family thing works doesn't it.

Not that I'm agreeing though. I think JKR would have hinted to us already if Lily (and Petunia) were adopted. I can't believe she'll put in more background stuff in the last book. She's already spent 6 books building this background and I think the last book will be more for clarity on stuff we already know from the first 6.

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

Yes, correct, didn't even think of that.
Harry's blood is the same as Petunia's, the same as Lily's, and now... the same as Voldemort's.

Oh, and if Lily was related to Slytherin then, strictly speaking, Harry could have been the Heir of Slytherin.

[SunsetG|rl]

This is wrong... Harry could have been in Slytherin even if he hasn't got Slytherin's blood... Don't you see... It's exactly what the book is trying to teach us... That it's not your blood, but your facts that can make a difference, and that make you who you really are...

[Asphodel]

No one seems to talk about the fact that Harry may be related to Vernon.

[darkcloak]

The Sorting Hat would never put an ancestor of Slytherin in Gryffindor house. And he would know.

As an aside, after reading the six books, I don't believe that the Sorting Hat actually does the sorting itself. In my opinion it merely repeats the choice made by the person wearing it.

For instance Harry chose to go into Gryffindor, I bet Malfoy and alot of so-called 'pure-bloods' desperately wanted to be Slytherin and were thinking this when they put on the hat, the hat merely vocalised their decision.

I would imagine Sirius (being the rebel he is) actively chose to go into Gryffindor against his family's wishes and Herminone maybe wanted to be seen as brave rather than just clever, hence the hat saying that she could be in Ravenclaw but I would imagine she decided that Gryffindor was more for her.

Hence an heir of Slytherin could go into Gryfindor house if he/she chose to do so as the sorting hat doesn't make the decision, it merely makes the person think about what they want to be and gives them the choice.

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

This is wrong... Harry could have been in Slytherin even if he hasn't got Slytherin's blood... Don't you see... It's exactly what the book is trying to teach us... That it's not your blood, but your facts that can make a difference, and that make you who you really are...

This is wrong... Don't you see? Didn't say he couldn't have been in Slytherin. I said theoretically he could have been the Heir of Slytherin after all [and in reply to the above poster, I changed my opinion straight after I typed that], which I thought would have been a little ironic considering the story of CoS.

Not once did I say that all Slytherins are bad, and that all Gryffindors are good.
I did say though, that it's unlikely Lily is a descendant, because that would make Harry related to Voldemort, and Voldemort would not be the last Heir.

If you judge my posts, read them first.
Oh yes, and as the last poster very clearly pointed out, Sirius is living proof that you don't have to go with your blood.
Not once did I dispute that. If you think I did, quote it and let me explain, please.

[Asphodel]

Yes, maybe Lily was a rebel like Sirius. Or maybe she didn't know about her ancestry.

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

No one seems to talk about the fact that Harry may be related to Vernon.

Could you explain please? I don't seem to be picking up on something. From what we've seen Harry is related to Vernon. He's his nephew. They just came from different ancestry because he isn't his blood uncle, Petunia's his blood-aunt.

I must not be picking up on something... Please explain!

[Asphodel]

What I mean, is Vernon is a blood relative. Vernon is depicted as ugly and grumpy, much like the Guants. Perhaps his blood sister is Lily. Maybe Petunia just thinks Lily is her sister. Also, Vernon doesn't have to even be related to the Guants. The Slytherins don't all have the same last name.

[SunsetG|rl]

I wasn't only talking about what Phoenix in Ashes said... It's the general ideea.. That I don't find it that relevant that Lily and Harry are related to Slytherin or something... Didn't mean to offend you or somethig...

Well anyway...The whole Vernon it makes no sense to me... (maybe you can enlighten me or something) Lily is related to Petunia. Petunia couldn't have maried Vernon if they were relatives. And plus this must be the mafic institution of marige... Like people become in some sort of weierd way blood relatives if they get married...Like 2 become 1 or something...

[Asphodel]

Well, I mean, isn't it like J.K.R to just make it an obvious fact (Lily and Petunia being sisters) and then just telling us we're all wrong.

[Phoenix in the Ashes]

Hmm, seems awfully coincedental that Petunia and Vernon married, and Lily was Petunia's sister then.
Personally, I don't think that something like that could happen. Best leave Vernon out of the entire business, in my opinion.

[Barny The Barn]

Nah, I just don't buy it that Lily was a descendent of Slytherin, she was muggle born. But I'd love to know how muggle born's can develop wizarding powers. there must be a way