Wormatil's Debt

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Postby Hagger 9003 » Saturday 19 February 2005 8:59:01pm

i never said there was going to be no death of somone close to harry. i think there will be one. but there will be a reason for death. i just dont think lupin will die. currently, he isnt important enough to affect harry greatly, but he isnt unimportant to be a death in the background of someone he barely knew. i really dont know about this.
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Postby Tanuki » Sunday 20 February 2005 3:47:39am

I dunno, I get the feeling he'll be more and more important as the story goes on, seeing as how he is connected to the story
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Postby Phoenix in the Ashes » Saturday 26 February 2005 2:22:32am

I think Lupin will get more and more important as the story goes on too, but I don't think he will die. It'd just be so terrible for the last of James' real friends to go. I don't mention Wormtail there if you'll notice. I get the impression te Peter was more of a tag-along.
I think LV killing Lupin, then Wormtail helping Harry in some way, shape or form to kill LV, is more likely. But I don't think it will happen. Who could be someone close to Harry that gets killed? Do you think it's a member of the Order? Maybe a student? Anymore ideas on the debt thingee?
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Postby Hagger 9003 » Saturday 26 February 2005 6:02:06pm

i think a member of the order will die. that would make molly really scared that her kids might die. plus, i think the school needs to be affected too, and mayb another pupil will die there. or, a teacher...
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Postby Imelyen » Saturday 26 March 2005 7:27:08am

On real topic: I think Pettigrews debt has already come full circle. His hand was one of the ingrediants in the potion that revived Voldemort, and since this whole bond thing is supposed to be "magic at it's deepest" or whatever, it may have some lingering effect like Lily's sacrafice for Harry, thus tainting Voldemort in some way/shape/form which may do something or other to Voldemort when he tried to kill Harry (I just thought of this theory when i read the topic so leave me alone if it's flawed :grin: )

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Postby Evil Wizard Petting Zoo » Saturday 26 March 2005 6:47:30pm

On real topic: I think Pettigrews debt has already come full circle. His hand was one of the ingrediants in the potion that revived Voldemort, and since this whole bond thing is supposed to be "magic at it's deepest" or whatever, it may have some lingering effect like Lily's sacrafice for Harry, thus tainting Voldemort in some way/shape/form which may do something or other to Voldemort when he tried to kill Harry (I just thought of this theory when i read the topic so leave me alone if it's flawed )
I think that is very true along with the fact that Voldemort said that he would have the protection in Harry's blood that came form Lily, but in reality, Voldemort couldn't have that protection because it was based on true love, which Voldemort despises. So Voldemorts downfall I think is at his rebirth, he picked the wrong two people to help him achieve it, Wormtail with his "bond" with Harry and Harry with his mothers true love inside his blood.
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Postby Imelyen » Saturday 26 March 2005 8:40:21pm

She's kind of gone away from the whole true love thing, and went more with the whole counter-curse idea (which is better IMHO) which only affords Harry protection from Voldemort, but if Voldemort shares that same protection, it kind of cancels it out, thus the reason he used Harry, which he pretty much stated in his little speech to the DE's
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Postby Cedric » Saturday 26 March 2005 10:13:41pm

Exactly, I agree. Didn't Voldemort in OotP touch Harry? The book made it seem that he wasn't able to do that before because of what was in his blood. Like in the SS when Professor Q. tried to take the stone and touched Harry, his face burned up. So now that Voldemort has what Harry has, as Imelyen said, they cancel each other out.
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Postby Phoenix in the Ashes » Tuesday 29 March 2005 10:17:11am

Lily's blood/love running through Harry was the protection that made Voldemort not able to touch Harry. In GoF, when he was reborn using Harry's blood, he proved he could then touch him. I don't think JKR would of included the touching thing if it wasn't important to the storyline, so we'll see, we'll see.
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