What ever happened to Mr. Norris??

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Postby Mistress Siana » Tuesday 15 February 2005 6:05:53pm

I'm not 100 % sure of it, but I think JKR said they won't. And personally, I hope so, I would be too much of a repitition.
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Postby Phinea Rogue » Wednesday 16 February 2005 1:50:39pm

I hope they wouldn't, or at least not all of them. But Hermione is a possibility, I can see her on working hard on something like this, becoming an animagus. Therefore - only Hermione, I hope the others wouldn't become animagi. There're already too many of them. :-?
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Postby Hagger 9003 » Wednesday 16 February 2005 5:41:10pm

it took 3 years for the marauders to become animagi, and they were really good wizards. hermione might be a bit more intelligent, but i doubt she has the guts to do it. so many rules to break, and she would never break the law for no real reason. just for the sake of being able to turn into an animagus? i dont think so. it would make for some really interesting literature, though.
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Postby Phinea Rogue » Thursday 17 February 2005 11:45:47am

But she could do it legally, with the help of McGonagall. After all, only being an unregistered animagus is illegal, not being an animagus itself.
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Postby Un'Anima Persa » Friday 18 February 2005 12:54:40am

if i were hermione, i would care more about the helpless animals that are transfigured than the house elves that want to stay where they are...
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Postby Tanuki » Friday 18 February 2005 4:31:24pm

Once more, I assume Mcgonagall probably changes them back at the end of the lesson. Besides, look at some of the ingredients in potions, animals are used loads in the wizarding worlds.
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Postby Hagger 9003 » Friday 18 February 2005 10:03:56pm

yeh. remember, people use unicorn horn. do they actually kill the unicorn? cos to kill a unicorn is a monstrous sin, as they said in book one. also, think of all the dragon horn, skin, blood etc they use. they must be getting rare, those dragons.
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Postby Nightcrawler » Wednesday 23 February 2005 11:17:36am

Well, Dragons are reptiles so I suppose they shed thier skin once in a while.

As for unicorn horns, well I believe that african villagers used to use rhino horns in thier medicine all the time. This would not hurt the rhino at all, because thier horn is really just made out of thick, twisted hair. It just grows right back. Maybe the same thing happens to unicorns.
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Postby Hagger 9003 » Thursday 24 February 2005 5:43:43pm

ok, where did u get that info, nightcrawler? horns of animals are made of ivory. very rare and valuable, and the only way to get it is to kill the animal. it doesnt grow back. its part of the skeleton. if u take the horn of an animal, it would be like cutting someones bone in half, and taking away the other half. thats why the horn is important. its the hardest bit to get from an animal. u have to kill the animal first.

sorry if i seem a bit agresive, but i dont reckon animals should be killed for a horn. just seems a bit of a waste of a life.
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Postby Tanuki » Friday 25 February 2005 2:42:29am

You're thinking of tusks, horns can be made of just about anything. Deer antlers grow back and fall off every year. I can believe that a Rhino horn is possibly made this way. The world is an amazing and wonderous place
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Postby Nightcrawler » Friday 25 February 2005 7:43:46am

Yes, Tanuki is correct. Tusks are different to horns.

However, I totally agree that it is wrong to kill an animal just so that you can play music on thier bones.

From:

http://www.auduboninstitute.org/media/e ... 0Horns.doc

Here is the deffinition of the word "horn".


Horns are bone overlaid with keratin, the protein that forms fingernails. Horns are permanent; antelopes, sheep, bison, cattle, and goats have them. Both males and females usually have horns, though there is often sexual dimorphism (physical differences) between the genders.



Yes, the word "bone" was in there, however in the rhino section it says...

[Rhino horn is] compressed hair - not horn at all. It grows throughout the rhino’s life.


So it looks like rhino "horn" is not really a horn, even though that is what it is commonly known as.
Further down it says:

the horns grow back



Unfortunetly, many poachers will still kill a rhino for its horn, because I suppose removing a horn from a dead rhino is easier than removing one from a live one. However the actual removal of the horn itself does not hurt the rhino.
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Postby Tanuki » Friday 25 February 2005 4:46:27pm

now in this day and age of tranks, you can just knock it out and take it, of course you gotta run like hell when it wakes up
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Postby Un'Anima Persa » Friday 25 February 2005 11:15:47pm

lol... but it must be a bit harder to get it while it is alive...

btw, it is totaly wrong to kill animals for music... BLEH!

and i dont think you should take horse hair to make violin/viola/bass/cello bows either...
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Postby choki » Saturday 26 February 2005 11:23:23am

erm...you don't have to kill a horse just to get his tail hair right????
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Postby Un'Anima Persa » Saturday 26 February 2005 2:41:16pm

no, you don't, but i still don't think it's right to pluck it out when there are other materials that woork just as well...
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