The deatheater to never return...

[Gower]

It has been said that Voldemort has overcome this particularly barrier, but that doesn't mean his death eaters have. They are still full of greed, hatred and ambition which according to Dumbledore was the reason Quirrel couldn't touch Harry. But that's not very relevant

Having read your posts I think you could be right and there is some doubt
which between Snape and Karkaroff is the coward and which has left forever and is marked for death. If JK had wanted us to know for sure, she would probably have had Voldemort mention names at that point.

[harrylover]

I think quirrel couldn´t touch harry because voldemort was inside of him.

I agree that voldemort doesn´t know that snape is a spy for the order.

[Athena Appleton]

It has been said that Voldemort has overcome this particularly barrier, but that doesn't mean his death eaters have. They are still full of greed, hatred and ambition which according to Dumbledore was the reason Quirrel couldn't touch Harry. But that's not very relevant

Noooooooo....... Quirrell couldn't touch Harry at the end because Voldemort couldn't touch Harry, and Voldemort was a part of Quirrell at the time... In fact, when Quirrell and Harry first met in The Leaky Cauldron, Quirrell shakes Harry's hand. Also, if I'm not mistaken, Snape grabs hold of Harry's shoulder at some point.

*points and laughs* You're wrong!!!

Just kidding.

[Deedra Malfoy]

This is beyond my small level of comprehension now.

[Lone_Buck]

I've never doubted that Karkaroff was the coward, just by his actions in GOF, but Athena made some interesting points. I don't really buy into the Sinastra thing. She was never made into that big of a deal. Snape could very well be the coward. I never really thought that there'd be anyone other that Crouch as the faithful servent at Hogwarts. My only other guesses would be Filch, or Mrs. Norris. Didn't JKR say that there was much more to all the cats in the story than meets the eye. We did go on believing for two and a half books that Scabbers was just a rat.

[Athena Appleton]

I've never doubted that Karkaroff was the coward, just by his actions in GOF, but Athena made some interesting points. I don't really buy into the Sinastra thing. She was never made into that big of a deal.

Yeah, I'm starting to abandon my theory that Sinistra is anything in particular... however, I still think that we'll find out something more about her... just probably not that she's a Death Eater. But I still hold fast to my theory that Snape's the coward, Karkaroff is never to return.

My only other guesses would be Filch, or Mrs. Norris. Didn't JKR say that there was much more to all the cats in the story than meets the eye. We did go on believing for two and a half books that Scabbers was just a rat.

I don't think it would be Mr. Filch. I think he's one of those excellent examples all through the series of people who are definately not nice, but not on Voldemort's side. Besides, I have my doubts that even Voldemort would welcome Filch, a squib, into his fold. It seems to be another example of Dumbledore accepting people based on their merits (and, whether he's a nice guy or not, Filch is certainly dedicated to being the best caretaker out there) rather than their status.

As far as the cat thing goes... really, the only three cats I can think of are the Prof. McGonagall animagus cat, Crookshanks and Mrs. Norris. The first is obviously something more to what she seems (an animagus), the second is almost definately a kneazle (based on some pretty heavy hints given by Rowling, along with information on kneazles in "Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them"), and there's almost certainly something to Mrs. Norris, just don't know what yet.

Also, there are Mrs. Figg's many cats... I've heard some theories about them, too... Is there a particular reason she wanted Harry to be able to recognise those cats (she keeps showing him pictures), or was that simply part of her plan to come up with a really REALLY boring activity for Harry to do when he came over so she could more effectively keep an eye on him? Is there something more to Mrs. Figg's cats? Is there a way they were involved in the spying on Harry? *shrug* I doubt it... She probably just insisted on showing pictures of her cats and talking about them all the time to keep up her plan to keep the Dursleys from thinking she liked Harry and vice versa, so that he could come over. It seems to have worked...

[Reverie Revenge]

Come, kitty, kitty, come ...!
Mrs. Norris is not an animagus - I think JKR wouldn't use the same twist twice, Scrabbers was enough.

Filch is really very attached to Mrs. Norris (that's why there are suspections about Mrs. Norris being his life-mate when she's not reporting pranking students). But in CoS Filch said ''my cat was petrified'', not ''my darling was petrified'' or sth. else ... if he talks about her as a cat even when he's out of control, when he's in shock, then she is a cat.
Mrs. Figg's cats: she told Harry that Mr. Tibbles informed her there was sth. wrong. But I still think she's got intelligent cats, not animagi around her.

Ontopic: Sinistra means ''left'' in Italian, but also in heraldics. JKR likes coats of arms and stuff, maybe prof. Sinistra isn't a DE but a genealogist or sth. But I don't think DD would employ a pure blood addict ...

I agree with Athena, there are many more DEs than mentioned. Don't know who's never gonna return, just this: I think Karkaroff is still a bad guy, even if he liked Krum. He's bad but coward. My might be killed in book 6, or 7, but killed for sure.

[Deedra Malfoy]

The left side of the body also belongs to the feminine in pagan beliefs.

[*Lily*]

Athena- for tose of us who haven't studied Fantastic Beasts and where to find them... What is a Kneazel? Maybe Voldemort does know that Snape is a spy and He is the deatheater to never return because even though he did return to the circle he hasn't returned to their side. But I think the Karkaroff will also never willing return but since it is because he is afraid of them I think he could be the coward.

[TDM]

It has been said that Voldemort has overcome this particularly barrier, but that doesn't mean his death eaters have. They are still full of greed, hatred and ambition which according to Dumbledore was the reason Quirrel couldn't touch Harry. But that's not very relevant

Noooooooo....... Quirrell couldn't touch Harry at the end because Voldemort couldn't touch Harry, and Voldemort was a part of Quirrell at the time... In fact, when Quirrell and Harry first met in The Leaky Cauldron, Quirrell shakes Harry's hand. Also, if I'm not mistaken, Snape grabs hold of Harry's shoulder at some point.

*points and laughs* You're wrong!!!

Just kidding.

ah, but you're forgetting one thing. Quirrel wasn't wearing his turban until Harry saw him at Hogwarts. because Harry noticed that he looked out of place in a turban. also, near the end, Quirrel said that AFTER he failed to steal the stone from Gringotts, LV then possessed him. he hadn't attempted to steal the stone yet for obvious reasons, one being that Hagrid hadn't picked it up. anyway, that was my only thing to say. but, everyone has good theories on this!

[Athena Appleton]

Athena- for tose of us who haven't studied Fantastic Beasts and where to find them... What is a Kneazel?

The truth: I don't know. I don't have the book either. I'm going up to the bookstore today, though, I'll look and see. I only know that through other stuff I've read, along with some things Rowling has said in interviews, I found out that Crookshanks is a Kneazle. Apparently, it's some sort of catlike animal that is very highly intelligent. *shrug*

Maybe Voldemort does know that Snape is a spy and He is the deatheater to never return because even though he did return to the circle he hasn't returned to their side. But I think the Karkaroff will also never willing return but since it is because he is afraid of them I think he could be the coward.

Yeah, but what fun is that??? Why go with the obvious choice?

ah, but you're forgetting one thing. Quirrel wasn't wearing his turban until Harry saw him at Hogwarts. because Harry noticed that he looked out of place in a turban. also, near the end, Quirrel said that AFTER he failed to steal the stone from Gringotts, LV then possessed him. he hadn't attempted to steal the stone yet for obvious reasons, one being that Hagrid hadn't picked it up. anyway, that was my only thing to say. but, everyone has good theories on this!

Hmmm... I didn't get enough sleep last night... can't figure out what that has to do with what I posted.... Except for, are you just saying that Quirrell could touch Harry in the Leaky Cauldron because he wasn't a Death Eater at that time?

This is what Gower wrote:

It has been said that Voldemort has overcome this particularly barrier, but that doesn't mean his death eaters have. They are still full of greed, hatred and ambition which according to Dumbledore was the reason Quirrel couldn't touch Harry.

The reason Quirrell couldn't touch Harry wasn't because of his greed, hatred and ambition, but because, at the end of the book, Voldemort was in Quirrell, and Voldemort couldn't touch Harry. Quirrell, on his own, could. But those qualities were there in the Leaky Cauldron, because Quirrell already planned to get the stone for Voldemort. It was mere hours after Quirrell and Harry met that Quirrell snuck into Gringotts and tried to break into the vault. This means that he had already gone abroad, he'd already agreed to get the stone for Voldemort, and he was, in a way, a Death Eater (although I don't think he's technically one). Quirrell (on his own) being able to touch Harry means that Death Eaters (on their own) can touch Harry. Just having greed, hatred and ambition doesn't keep someone from being able to touch Harry. The only reason Voldemort couldn't was because of the whole love-sacrifice thing. Your pointing out that Quirrell wasn't wearing the turban at the time actually proves the point. Thanks!

[TDM]

actually, yeah, Athena i was repsonding to just the Quirrel thing. i don't know why i only respond to the off topic things, but i do.

[*Lily*]

I may be wrong but I think I remember LV saying that Quirell just happened by his hiding place and THEN he became a servant. He wasn't looking for him. If he was a DE he would have been looking for him... but anyway this is still off topic...

[AngelicS_89]

I just wanted to say one thing:I think that in the circle on the graveyard were mentioned all of the DEs.And Lupin says they were outnumbered,cause there were a lot of folowers too,which wasn't DEs,they were just ppl like Crouch JR.I think that LV made DEs only ppl for which he belived he can trust,and they were like 'leaders' of they're own private little gangs...

[pallas artemis]

AngelicS I don't agree. I'm Almost postitive I remember it saying in GoF that LV walked past several people without saying anything at all. You also have to take into account the number of DEs in Azkaban. Sirius definately implies anyway that there are quite a few ( I think he said "Azkaban is full of DEs" or something like that) in Azkaban, more than the handfull mentioned in OotP.

I think that LV made DEs only ppl for which he belived he can trust,and they were like 'leaders' of they're own private little gangs...

I don't think that LV would trust anyone enough to have them mounting their own private army/gang, even if they said they were working for him. People as greedy and ambishous as LV don't trust anybody, let alone people like Lucius Malfoy who would just as soon seize control himself as win it for someone else and have to take orders. LVs closest followers aren't the type of people who follow they lead which is all the more reason for LV not to trust them.

I hope that all makes sense to you guys